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(Message started by: Erotic_Baubles on Sep 10th, 2007, 7:46pm)

Title: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Sep 10th, 2007, 7:46pm
Let's have a little experiment...

If we could make an effort to heap our general praise and general gripes in this thread for a while. What is the show doing right? Where is it going wrong? That sort of thing. I'm curious to learn what we all think and do it in a constructive manner. I'd also like to try to keep each weekly thread more focused on that week's content.

I'll get the ball rolling by saying the show sounded good on paper but is far too hit and miss for me. They may get on like a house on fire in private, but the chemistry doesn't translate to the airwaves according to my ears. Two decent presenters in an odd timeslot for both of them (I think, anyway). Not late enough for Mark and too late for Stuart.

One consistent comment about the Mark Radcliffe show concerned it's 90 minute running time. Not long enough. Mark and that night's guest would be barely getting going before it was time to chat to Janice Schlong who would let slip the answer to The Crucial Three.

I'd said in the week 21 thread that Mark and Stuart were two peas in a pod. Giving it a bit more though I'm not so sure now. Mark and Marc Riley obviously got each other's sense of humour. That is less evident with Mark and Maconie. It sounds a little forced at times. Stuart displays more deference to Mark then the other way around. This is possibly because it is Mark who drives the desk (or at least has been when I've checked the webcam). The set up is Mark with Stuart as sidekick by default, even though they are surely (and were meant to be) equals.

It's probably unfair to hark back to the days of Mark Radcliffe as much as I want to but I'm going to anyway. Mark's rolling squad of sidekicks worked, on the whole, quite nicely. A variety of experiences and opinions even if I couldn't stand some of them. Whereas with Mark and Stuart you have two consumate professionals who sometimes struggle to say something other then what the other one said 30 seconds ago.

Why? Anyone's guess is as good as mine. Perhaps the music plays a larger part then I realise too. The extra time over the Mark Radcliffe show gives live sessions more time, but they are interspersed with playlist rubbish and laboured competitions.

Is Mark and Maconie supposed to be a more mainstream radio show? Trying to bring together Mark Radcliffe fans and Stuart Maconie fans to get an inoffensive evening show with decent audience figures. With Mark Radcliffe previously being on so late it resulted in an audience that actively wanted to hear him and whomever else was there with him. Once the Big Band Special or Sounds of the Seventies was over, the airwaves were ours. Loud music, talk of shoes and Noddy Holder in dire need of a 'can you back off the mic?'.

Perhaps that I have so many questions marks the show down as not being for me. Whether that is 'not aimed at me' or just 'not my cup of tea' I'm not sure. Lesley Douglas must have had some kind of target audience, or at least an idea more extensive then the apparent 'they are funny in the pub lets put them on air' story. Telling, perhaps, that there has been no run of mugs to give away...  

I'll finish with a pointless football analogy. 11 great footballers don't neccessarily make for a great team.

Alright, I'll not finish with that. There is no 'i' in team but there are two in 'Radcliffe and Maconie'.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:11pm
Make it sticky Erotic!

There's plenty of anecdotal material to back that up. Stuart tried hard to "get" the cowbell thing (which goes back to Graveyard, doesn't it?) but rang it once too often last week, and got told off.

"Laboured" and "inoffensive" are good words. And I agree that we actively wanted to hear the 10.30 show because it was hidden away.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:14pm
Could someone just find all my old posts and paste them into a new message?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:43pm
They both lack the gumption to battle playlist clerk.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 10th, 2007, 10:17pm
Just show me the playlist clerk - I'll battle him/her!
Something needs to be done - mainly I need to remove my lenses so I can actually see what I'm trying to type!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 10th, 2007, 10:20pm
There, that's better. So where were we?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 11th, 2007, 8:39am
It's only just hit me - we're never going to have St Julian Of Cope on the new show are we? Absolutely NO chance. It's far too middle-of-the-road, risk-averse Radio 11 for that.

"Let's play some New Music, shall we Stuart?" "Ooooh I don't know, are you sure?" "It's quite OK, it's by Travis." "Well, give it the 2 minutes before the news, we can pull it if it's too dangerous." Well it's not 2Music, is it? Closer to the fireside and slippers?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Sep 11th, 2007, 1:09pm

on 09/10/07 at 20:11:00, Solarman wrote:
Make it sticky Erotic!

Not before the watershed.


Quote:
There's plenty of anecdotal material to back that up. Stuart tried hard to "get" the cowbell thing (which goes back to Graveyard, doesn't it?) but rang it once too often last week, and got told off.

"Laboured" and "inoffensive" are good words. And I agree that we actively wanted to hear the 10.30 show because it was hidden away.

The current interest in cowbell might have something to do with this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Cowbell

Never seen it myself and would be surprised if this was the inspiration for Mark and Stuart's current deployment of the aforementioned clanger.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 11th, 2007, 1:24pm
It's all coming round full circle for me... yesterday afternoon Liza was eating Manchega, which is the very cheese I was discussing with Mark when I was on the Crucial 3, the song I'd recognised that night being Don't Fear The Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. I feel closure.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 11th, 2007, 2:57pm

on 09/11/07 at 08:39:23, Solarman wrote:
It's only just hit me - we're never going to have St Julian Of Cope on the new show are we? Absolutely NO chance. It's far too middle-of-the-road, risk-averse Radio 11 for that.

"Let's play some New Music, shall we Stuart?" "Ooooh I don't know, are you sure?" "It's quite OK, it's by Travis." "Well, give it the 2 minutes before the news, we can pull it if it's too dangerous." Well it's not 2Music, is it? Closer to the fireside and slippers?


He was on The Freak Zone a couple of weeks ago promoting his new Album and Book. The Book, JapRockSampler is fantastic, written in his unique style. It is the perfect book if you are looking for a way into Japanese Music

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 17th, 2007, 4:58pm
I think that Stuart showed again last week why he should make this show his own. A much more relaxed and assured performance.

And from what I heard Radcliffe took to afternoons like a duck to water again. Yes the music was crap but the chat was top notch.

Again I say 2-5 Radcliffe and 8-10 Maconie.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 17th, 2007, 6:31pm
This could be a first - i i i i tink i agree with Ian :o

But if Mark is to go 2-5 thrn he has to have some control over the musical content - or do we think he's happy to go with the flow so he can be in the pub for 6 o'clock?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 17th, 2007, 6:42pm
He would surely think twice about a career interviewing James Blunto and TV stars he's never heard of.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Sep 17th, 2007, 8:26pm

on 09/17/07 at 18:42:44, Solarman wrote:
He would surely think twice about a career interviewing James Blunto and TV stars he's never heard of.


He hasn't so far.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 17th, 2007, 9:00pm
A permanent fixture isn't the same as a week or two.

Stuart made some intelligent comments tonight about The Police playing out of tune, which Mark virtually ignored - he's got his own agenda, that one.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 17th, 2007, 11:16pm
Quite clearly there are agendas aplenty - interesting to see which one will win the day...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 18th, 2007, 9:07am
...and which one will win the daytime ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 18th, 2007, 8:40pm

on 09/17/07 at 21:00:49, Solarman wrote:
A permanent fixture isn't the same as a week or two.

Stuart made some intelligent comments tonight about The Police playing out of tune, which Mark virtually ignored - he's got his own agenda, that one.


Yes, strange moment there. The problem is that Mark comes over as a bit rude, which he isn't I think. Stuart has got to relax a bit but Radcliffe isn't helping him one bit.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 18th, 2007, 10:11pm
Why should he? If it was a joint idea to present this mid-evening thingy then they should both be confident in their own abilities to make such a programme presentable.
Personally, well I won't bore you any more ...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by sgspecial on Sep 21st, 2007, 6:56pm
More importantly, I have just returned from holiday to find that the cowbells have disappeared. Does any one know what happened to them?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 21st, 2007, 7:16pm
Dont know, dont care! Welcome to BiggedyBong home of the criminally insane who have yet to be detected ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 21st, 2007, 11:19pm
Mark had had enough (evident last week). They're "resting" Stuff & Nonsense, and in its place we have "This Just In". Give it a month.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Sep 22nd, 2007, 12:10am
Aha. Coined a new feature. 'This Justin'. 4 facts and one non-fact about people called Justin. A different one every night and the listeners have to pick the bum steer. But don't enter 'cos you can't win owt.

They could have This Justin (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=justin%20hawkins&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi). Or This Justin (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=justin%20timberlake&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi). In the interests of equalidy, This Justin(e) (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=justine%20frischmann&revid=1461754654&resnum=0&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi).

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 22nd, 2007, 1:43pm
Better this week I think. The Tubular Bells stuff was good, Two Sevens Clash next week should be interesting. Kate Walsh I could take or leave but Noddy was on form in my opinion.

Mick Jagger? Could go either way!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Eight on Sep 22nd, 2007, 7:13pm
Thursday's show was great- 'The Hanging Garments of Debenhams'  :D

Mark seems to be a lot more comfotable in a duo role, he's quite happy to let Stuart do most of the links etc.....and still picking great records of the week- this week's Siouxie track is a blinder.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 22nd, 2007, 8:39pm
Hello Eight and welcome.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with Mark about Siouxsie. It makes me run for the off-switch. It's plodding and laboured, it goes on about "raining on parades" and only Madonna does that (what does it mean anyway?), and I heard Steve Wrong enthusing over it on Wednesday (he has also worked out that it's a Bond theme without a movie). It's a turkey, in my opinion, but fortunately, that counts for nowt!

Mark: "That new Siouxsie record is GREAT! We like that...."
Stuart: "Well, it's growing on me..."
Mark: "It's GREAT!"

Stuart tried, but Mark overruled, as usual.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 23rd, 2007, 11:15am
On the other side what about Stuart not liking the older Rilo Kiley stuff that Mark and a few people on here preferred but instead saying he likes the new stuff more that a few on here think is more commercial.

We could go through all the records and say that Mark likes this more and Stuart doesn't and Stuart likes that more and Mark doesn't.

They are different people, so like different things.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 23rd, 2007, 1:09pm
Well, of course they do. My point was that Mark was misrepresenting Stuart's view.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 23rd, 2007, 1:43pm
Does it matter?


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Sep 23rd, 2007, 2:41pm
Any difference in taste between the two is welcome. Though Mork obviously wears the trousers in this relationship.

Unless... Mork spaked with forked tongue giving out the official Double One line on whatsherface, but Stuart is there to almost subliminally tell us what they really think. A coded message to the keen of ear.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 23rd, 2007, 3:23pm

on 09/23/07 at 13:43:45, R_J wrote:
Does it matter?

I thought it did, because one presenter's views were being dismissed by the other.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Sep 23rd, 2007, 8:13pm

on 09/23/07 at 14:41:01, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
Any difference in taste between the two is welcome. Though Mork obviously wears the trousers in this relationship.

Unless... Mork spaked with forked tongue giving out the official Double One line on whatsherface, but Stuart is there to almost subliminally tell us what they really think. A coded message to the keen of ear.


I've been out of the country; please explain.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 23rd, 2007, 8:19pm
There is much unconditional praise on 2FM for Siouxsie's plodding and laboured new single, with its bitter relationship-breakup lyrics. Stuart dared to be less than effusive in his measured response - "it's growing on me" - and was slapped down.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Sep 23rd, 2007, 8:30pm

on 09/23/07 at 20:19:54, Solarman wrote:
There is much unconditional praise on 2FM for Siouxsie's plodding and laboured new single, with its bitter relationship-breakup lyrics. Stuart dared to be less than effusive in his measured response - "it's growing on me" - and was slapped down.


Does this mean she's no longer with Budgie?

The record isn't very good, is it?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 23rd, 2007, 10:12pm

on 09/23/07 at 20:30:28, Celebrity Sheep wrote:
Does this mean she's no longer with Budgie?

The record isn't very good, is it?


Record is certainly not up to the beauteous one's previous offerings - in fact its almost like Siouxsie trying to sound as if she's not Siouxsie but wants you realise that she is. That's probably the most convoluted, meaningless statement I've ever typed but I know what I mean.
Hope she and Budgie haven't split - could put Ms S back on Mr Daisy's availability list  ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Sep 24th, 2007, 9:35am
They got divorced, a little while back

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 24th, 2007, 10:35am
Mark dismisses Stuart's view on that one record and Stuart listens to what Mark says in most links and agrees with him, then forgets Mark has said it and says it himself using different words as if Mark didn't say it at all. They are now even, they both don't care what the other one says.

The perfect double act.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 24th, 2007, 10:40am
Alas, 'tis true.

Still, when "troubled 6Music" gets the axe to pay for keeping BBC3 and BBC4 on air, Marc can come and sort out Radio 2.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 24th, 2007, 10:47am
Having said that I still  find Stuart more annoying as he does that a few times in each show, along with his favourite word which is now meaningless to me,  the siouxsie record has now gone.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 24th, 2007, 10:53am
The reason Stuart is relaxed when he's on his own (I would say dull instead of relaxed) is that he's got the microphone to himself and everyones attention.


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 24th, 2007, 3:24pm
Dull! I take you didn't listen to yesterday's Robert Wyatt special on the Freak Zone. A marvelous interview and a wonderful overview of the career of a fantastic artist.

An interview that was easily the equal of anything Radcliffe has ever done.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jay on Sep 24th, 2007, 3:52pm

on 09/24/07 at 15:24:14, ip33 wrote:
An interview that was easily the equal of anything Radcliffe has ever done.


What!?  Even Beat The Clock!?  I doubt it!  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 24th, 2007, 3:54pm
Radcliffe's Kate Bush interview was competent, despite being starstruck and marooned on an island with the lovely Kate

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 25th, 2007, 12:23pm
Email address = twice a show is ok every link =dull
the same with the text number

Asking for listeners memories on everything they might mention so he doesn't have to think of things to say for himself = dull

one word for everything he likes "Fantastic" = dull,
even I can think of a few: lovely, very good, a really good record perfect for a long car journey, I like that a lot, I hope to hear more from them as they are really enjoyable to hear. He has the entire record to think of something to say and he comes out with the same thing, it must be catching as Mark is saying it too now.

Plugging listen again = dull, he did it about three times last night.

facts about the singers cat/dog/trousers/ = dull and I've read on other message boards they are sometimes wrong.

Mark does great interviews and he can go off on a tangent away from facts that he's memorised.



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 25th, 2007, 5:10pm
Introducing me to tons of artists that I would never have heard = fantastic.

More laughs on the Radio than most other presenters = fantastic.

Interesting facts about various artists = fantastic.

Not saying err in every link like a certain other northern presenter = fantastic.

Not picking up a fellow presenter on every slip of the tongue, however slight = fantastic.

Writing fantastic books = fantastic.

Writing fantastic reviews and articles in various publications = fantastic.

Having a very enjoyable TV show running at the moment = fantastic.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 25th, 2007, 5:21pm
Here we go again  >:(

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 25th, 2007, 7:10pm
Looks like Ian is over-using the word "fantastic" to describe Stuart, to antagonise R_J. But will it work? Look away now

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 25th, 2007, 7:21pm

on 09/25/07 at 19:10:13, Solarman wrote:
Looks like Ian is over-using the word "fantastic" to describe Stuart, to antagonise R_J. But will it work? Look away now


I think R_J and Ian should be put on a desert island together with the entire R & M back catalogue on 'lishen agin'. Whoever can stand the most, wins, and has the right to come back to BB and moan about something else  >:(

But for God's sake you two - 'get a room'!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 25th, 2007, 7:23pm

on 09/25/07 at 17:21:24, Daisy wrote:
Here we go again  >:(


No it's not. I'm just stating why I disagree with RJ and her(?) opinion.

I don't agree with her(?) so why shouldn't I post my opinion.

I wasn't rude or offensive, so what's the problem?

Anyway back to DJ Carrington ina area, now that's a show!

Ian.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Neil_B on Sep 25th, 2007, 7:28pm

on 09/25/07 at 19:23:07, ip33 wrote:
Anyway back to DJ Carrington ina area, now that's a show!


'Bye just now  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 26th, 2007, 10:56am
"Horse S**t"

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 26th, 2007, 10:57am
Why are you on a Mark and Marc fan site Ian, why not write about Stuart on a Stuart Maconie fan site?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 26th, 2007, 11:05am
That'll be because Mark has gone and shackled himself to a co-presenter and no longer has his own show, to our regret (and possibly his). We can't comment on Mark's show without involving that other bloke.

For what it's worth - Mark repeated one of Stuart's utterances last night - is there an echo in there?

I liked "...are you off somewhere?" "No I was just going off-mic to cough" "Oh, I thought you'd had enough"

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 26th, 2007, 11:09am
He doesn't like Mark so why not write about Stuart on a Maconie fan site

It seems to me that there is utter outrage from Ian that I like Mark Radcliffe and choose to say so on site that is half dedicated to him.


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by pixiedancer on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:26pm
"Not saying err in every link like a certain other northern presenter = fantastic."

it has been errrm scientifically, errm, proven, that erm, when people errm, um and errrm arrrr, it makes, errm, people, umm, pay more, errrr, attention, to the errr, um, things they're, errrrrm, you know, um, saying....

Marks' a genius and no mistake  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:46pm
Mark's just erring on the side of caution.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:48pm
Half of Ian's "fantastics" aren't anything to do with the show, does he hold his books up to the microphone? "look at my book, I can't be dull, if you've had an idea for a book send it in and then I'll read it out, if you've missed the address you can listen again"

The er thing is what  the Richard Allinson fans said about Mark back in 2004, " he says er, get him off"


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:55pm
It's errly doors for Mark

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Sep 26th, 2007, 4:52pm
For £5 I can add Stuart and Maconie to the autocensor. It's a lot of cash...

If only the Bolton Bullfrog was still on the guest list. He could do a 'fantastic' Maconie Megamix to rival Mork's infamous 'Erm'.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:02pm

on 09/26/07 at 11:09:11, R_J wrote:
He doesn't like Mark so why not write about Stuart on a Maconie fan site

It seems to me that there is utter outrage from Ian that I like Mark Radcliffe and choose to say so on site that is half dedicated to him.


I've listened to MR since 'Hit the North' days on crackly old Radio 5 and listened to his (and Riley's) shows

ever since. Bought both his books and even watched the 'White Room'! So you're right I'm totally hate him!!!!!!!!!!!

I could make the point that you criticise SM on a Radcliffe and Riley site while I praise him, what's the difference?

My 'fantastic' post was 'tongue in cheek' but with your normal lack of a sense of humour you yet again took offence. In future I will put JOKE against what post as a non-serious comments so you don't get the wrong end of the stick!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:32pm
Reply #43 confirms to me what I thought; the talents of Stuart Maconie often put those of Mark Radcliffe in the shade whilst they continue to broadcast in this format.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:59pm

on 09/26/07 at 19:32:17, Jocksy S wrote:
whilst they continue to broadcast in this format

It was bound to attract comparisons which they could otherwise have avoided.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by TheBunny on Oct 4th, 2007, 8:27pm
There was an interview with Maconie in the Metro today, plugging his book;


Quote:
How does Wigan's food compare with other towns in the region?
I don't know what they have in Bolton, it's a culinary wasteland. Radcliffe's from Bolton and his favourite food, which I find depressing, is a baked potato.  He claims it's the greatest food in the world.  That tells you how adventurous the people of Bolton are vis-a-vis food, doesn't it?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 5th, 2007, 3:27pm
"PREVIOUSLY ON THE RUSSELL BRAND SHOW"? :o
No comment from Radcliffe tdoay after that trailer...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 6th, 2007, 9:05am

on 10/04/07 at 20:27:27, TheBunny wrote:
There was an interview with Maconie in the Metro today, plugging his book;



Quote:
Quote:How does Wigan's food compare with other towns in the region?
I don't know what they have in Bolton, it's a culinary wasteland. Radcliffe's from Bolton and his favourite food, which I find depressing, is a baked potato.  He claims it's the greatest food in the world.  That tells you how adventurous the people of Bolton are vis-a-vis food, doesn't it?  


I know what food they have in Bolton, the same as everywhere else as it is 2007 and not the 1950s.

Another great thing this week from Mr Maconie is

"I could claim Mark Radcliffe never existed and this was always the Stuart Maconie show, but I won't do that."

Or something like it.
If Mark had said it, it would no doubt be a sign of bullying Stuart when he wasn't there to defend himself.

I also liked how he wasn't happy with what people were emailing in on Thursday, they didn't do as he said and weren't sending in funny suggestions for people who have changed music or something, so he told them to think of better ones.




Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 6th, 2007, 9:08am
Oh, and he said he'd like emails so he didn't have to work twice as hard.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 6th, 2007, 9:24am
In the last couple of minutes of Thursday Stuart said he liked funk and Jay kay and agreed with Noddy he is a great singer and said he is much maligned.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 6th, 2007, 10:01am

on 10/06/07 at 09:05:10, R_J wrote:
"I could claim Mark Radcliffe never existed and this was always the Stuart Maconie show, but I won't do that."

Wow! Cheeky.

I've not listened at all this week (too busy, enough trouble keeping up with Marc) but that sounds priceless. And the JayKay confession - never if Mark was around!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by TheBunny on Oct 6th, 2007, 12:53pm

on 10/06/07 at 09:05:10, R_J wrote:
I know what food they have in Bolton, the same as everywhere else as it is 2007 and not the 1950s.

I don't think parched peas are found anywhere outside of Lancashire.

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/eat&drink/local-dishes.html

I didn't know Holland's Pies were a local delicacy.  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 6th, 2007, 1:51pm
Stuart said in the same link as the Jay Kay thing that he also liked Stevie Wonder and dance music and Jamiroquai are great at funk and dance. The next time they play Stevie Wonder Mark is not all to blame.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 6th, 2007, 2:00pm

on 10/06/07 at 10:01:42, Solarman wrote:
Wow! Cheeky.

I've not listened at all this week (too busy, enough trouble keeping up with Marc) but that sounds priceless. And the JayKay confession - never if Mark was around!


Would it have been cheeky if Mark had said it about Stuart? or would it have been a sign that he wants control and doesn't think much of Stuart's contribution?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 6th, 2007, 2:25pm

on 10/06/07 at 12:53:08, TheBunny wrote:
I don't think parched peas are found anywhere outside of Lancashire.

There'll be a reason for that.


on 10/06/07 at 14:00:29, R_J wrote:
Would it have been cheeky if Mark had said it about Stuart?

Yes.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Oct 6th, 2007, 4:30pm
Really really enjoyed the show this week, Stuart was top form and showing why this should be a solo show for him (and MR should be the afternoon jock).

His cheeky jokes were brilliant, even if the the odd person doesn't get them! The music (not mentioned in some posts) was of the highest quality, Robert Wyatt, Vashti Bunyan and Stiff Records, what's not to like!

Ian

PS I can't stand Jacket Potatoes!

And I can't stand people who try to wind others up. If you seriously want to discuss how great this week has been please do so in the Week 25 thread you started. - EB

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 7th, 2007, 4:07am
No. Don't.


We know Mark used to be quite forthright about the music on 1FM, and also to a certain extent on The Mark Radcliffe Show. There's been less of that on Radcliffe and Maconie.

Has Stuart soothed the savage beast? Or it could be a directive from Legless so there is less negativity about playlist music.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Oct 7th, 2007, 9:30am
You will of course be adding notes to other peoples posts who also talk about this weeks show in the 'wrong place'.

And if you don't think other people don't post things to 'wind people up' I'm afraid you may be mistaken!

At least I talk about the music on the show, which is more the one other poster ever does instead of a constant stream of character assassination of a honest and likeable presenter.

I will post the same thing in the 'correct' thread and hope it doesn't upset the more sensitive posters.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Oct 8th, 2007, 7:15pm

on 10/06/07 at 12:53:08, TheBunny wrote:
I don't think parched peas are found anywhere outside of Lancashire.

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/eat&drink/local-dishes.html

I didn't know Holland's Pies were a local delicacy.  ;D


What on earth is a 'parched pea'?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 8th, 2007, 7:18pm
QED!

It's a bit like a deep-fried mars bar Sheepo, without the batter or the mars bar

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Oct 8th, 2007, 7:27pm

on 10/08/07 at 19:18:19, Solarman wrote:
QED!

It's a bit like a deep-fried mars bar Sheepo, without the batter or the mars bar


I don't like Mars Bars or peas.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by TheBunny on Oct 8th, 2007, 8:40pm
I was at a party in Preston (how many stories start like that?), and the subject of parched peas came up.

All Prestonians present: Oh yeah, love 'em.

Non-Prestonians: What?!  In a cup?

From what I can tell, eaten like take-away chips, and almost as popular.

To get back on thread...

I lishened again to Maconly.  It's not bad, is it?  I'd listen if there wasn't anything else on.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:31pm
To quote a certain someone from another thread:

on 10/08/07 at 18:47:47, Spudgun wrote:
Thay really have arsed a damn fine presenter up these days.

Reduced to depping for Steve Sh*te & his miserable playlist & Z-list guests & presenting a evening show so hackneyed & messed about with.

I only listen now when there is someone vaguely interesting on the show [Winkleman is a no go area then].

For goodness sakes Double one put the man on some more great audio documentaries & a regular show that it is vital to listen to.

etc

I have to say I wholeheartedly agree. But how about the rest of us?

Mark being on his own this week has reminded me just how much I enjoyed the Mark Radcliffe Show.

The continuing Radcliffe or Maconie? saga does neither the presenters or the show itself any good. From my perspective it actively damages it because without Stuart it becomes the Mark Radcliffe Show again.

Yet if this great idea cooked up in a pub that Lesley Douglas thought was so great, why let them separate so often? Indeed, why let them broadcast the show alone? Better surely to have insisted on both presenters or neither and have got a proper stand in for when either Stuart or Mark are on holiday.(Although not Mark Lamarr 'cos he puts both of them in the shade.)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:32pm
A good, reliable stand-in.

Hmmmm.




Phill Jupitus?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:38pm
he's the gordon ramsey of radio ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:40pm
dont get alarmed but i had a serious thought regarding this thread -
would we expect quite so much of mark still if we had not lost peel?
maybe we feel he should and is arguably best qualified to take on the mantle of elder statesman who keeps the beeb's radio output interesting and varied and knowledgable, etc, well as much as anyone could...
just a thought!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 11th, 2007, 2:04pm
I look on Marc as the new Peel.

One of his beds would segue perfectly into Peel's theme tune. Can't remember which one.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Oct 11th, 2007, 2:13pm
that was actually my second thought - that marc has actually moved into this role much more...who'da thunk it when he was always the hapless sidekick!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 11th, 2007, 2:28pm
In 10 years, Marc will command far more respect than Mark in the music industry. Mark's a radio man. Marc's a plugger who stumbled into radio.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 11th, 2007, 3:27pm
Marc has a big advantage though - his show is meant to champion new and varied music (which it does) on a station that was set up to champion new and varied music (which it seems to be drifting away from to a certain extent).

The Mark Radcliffe Show and now Mark and Maconie are more general shows. They manage to get varied music in, particularly with the live sessions. But there is also less pimping of new (non-playlist) music, and less live sessions per week. It is diverse in other ways though, with it's interviews, regular guests and the like.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Oct 11th, 2007, 3:30pm
another good point well put :)

see how polite and good-tempered we all are here just now ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 11th, 2007, 3:50pm
All true, Erotic, nothing wrong with that. The point was that with that show, Mark is not the new Peel.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 11th, 2007, 8:45pm
I know. I was just saying Marc has the advantage of working at a station that lets him play just about anything, whether it's good or not.

I've no idea whether either Mark or Marc would honestly want to assume John Peel's legacy. Marc shies away the idea when people make that comparison, and Mark doesn't have to...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:47am
Marc's very modest, but he is doing roughly the same thing as Peel did, and in a primetime slot but on a marginal station (which isn't particularly distinguished at other times of day).

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Oct 12th, 2007, 6:55pm

on 10/11/07 at 15:30:14, littlemissmosher wrote:
another good point well put :)

see how polite and good-tempered we all are here just now ;D


Down with this sort of thing  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Oct 12th, 2007, 11:54pm

on 10/12/07 at 18:55:42, Celebrity Sheep wrote:
Down with this sort of thing  ;D


Politeness and niceness????
Surely that's not what BB is about???

EB - editorial guidance please!!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 17th, 2007, 2:21pm
http://talk.radiotimes.com/thread.jspa?threadID=400000436


Quote:
When, back in March, Auntie announced that Mark Radcliffe would be joining forces with fellow BBC Radio 2 stalwart Stuart Maconie for the purposes of a new evening show, I was inconsolable. "Turncoats! Poltroons!" I roared, in the manner of a (marginally) less hirsute Captain Haddock, imagining a fate akin to that which befell Whizzer and Chips when it was forced, weeping, into an arranged marriage with fellow comic powerhouse Buster (ie a slow, agonising death).

"Surely," I continued, raining tearful blows on my copy of the latest Radio Times, "anyone can see that the combination of such similar broadcasting styles will only dilute the award-winning presenters' considerable individual charms while depriving listeners of the vast and unalloyed weeknight joy that is the existing, solo Mark Radcliffe Show!"

But I was wrong. How wrong? This wrong (throws open arms and grimaces to indicate a wrongness of humbling magnitude). Because the result of this enforced union, this putative Clash of the Broadcasting Titans, is, against all odds, a programme of seemingly effortless excellence.

Indeed, just five months after they first found themselves peering at each other over a stack of pre-signed Ken Bruce publicity snaps, a couple of chewed biros and a teetering tower of unopened Michael Buble CDs, the Radcliffe-Maconie partnership already feels like an institution. A Sherbet Dip-Dab of fizzing wit and creamy nostalgia, it's as much a part of the Radio 2 furniture as Wogan's beloved breakfast bash or Sounds of the 70s.

It's a sofa of literary snugness: a pouffe of eloquent glee. Their styles - earthy yet sensitive northerner with punk leanings, and earthy yet sensitive northerner with prog leanings, respectively - are complementary to the point that it's increasingly difficult to tell them apart.

Monday's studio guest - itsy-bitsy Virginian singer/songwriter Devon Sproule - spoke for the nation when, in response to a question pertaining to the correct pronunciation of her surname ("sprawl", as it happens), she drawled, "I can't tell which one of y'all said that."

Their easy banter is so un-self-conscious, so pass-the-butter-mother comfortable, they sound like a married couple, albeit a married couple that doesn't touch one another's bottom, obviously, and spends its evenings discussing the thematic intricacies of Van der Graaf Generator records as opposed to, say, skirting boards.

In the duo's quest to retrieve every last lump of joy from the mineshaft of rock history, Monday's show saw the introduction of a new feature, wherein they impart their favourite music-based anecdotes. So we heard about the time Ozzy Osbourne yanked down rotund Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward's eezy-fit jogging bottoms during a stadium gig ("e didn't moind," said Ozzy, apparently, "e's gorra big old schlong 'as Bill"), and about the time Supertramp stuffed tiny support act Chris de Burgh into a laundry basket as punishment for the Irishman's infuriating penchant for charging back on stage immediately after his set.

Best of all, however, is the duo's passion for words. Hence, Supertramp were described by Maconie (or was it Radcliffe?) as "hirsute counter-tenors of cheesecloth smock-rock," while Radcliffe (or was it Maconie?), upon learning a caller was from Shipley, sighed, "ah, Eldorado…" and, incredibly, managed not to sound like a prize plum in a village fete for condescending DJs.

Arise, Sirs Radcliffe and Maconie, gallant knights of a new dawn in unexpectedly brilliant broadcasting.

Mark Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie are on BBC Radio 2, Monday-Thursday at 8:00pm.

Posted by SarahDempster-RT Wed 26 September 2007, 1:59pm  

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Oct 17th, 2007, 2:30pm
With that fantastic description, I urge you, Erotic Baubles, to close this debate.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Oct 18th, 2007, 7:44pm
That sounds like a great show. When's it on?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 20th, 2007, 2:56am
Hahahahaha.

It starts so well.


Quote:
"Surely," I continued, raining tearful blows on my copy of the latest Radio Times, "anyone can see that the combination of such similar broadcasting styles will only dilute the award-winning presenters' considerable individual charms while depriving listeners of the vast and unalloyed weeknight joy that is the existing, solo Mark Radcliffe Show!"

All that!


Quote:
just five months after they first found themselves peering at each other ... the Radcliffe-Maconie partnership already feels like an institution
that they positively race to abandon at times.


Quote:
A Sherbet Dip-Dab of fizzing wit and creamy nostalgia
and copious factoids from the books they have lying around.

Plus

Quote:
a sofa of literary snugness
that on occasion becomes a sofa of literary smugness.

I can understand Devon Sprawl struggling as they mumble, interrupt each other and talk in an excitable chatter at times. But do any of us struggle to tell them apart?

Their penchant for parroting rock lore can get tiresome at times. My rose tinted ear trumpet has convinced me the Mark Radcliffe Show used to be about the music and the guests. Mark and Maconie feels more about the presenters.

It's weird though. We ardent followers of The Mark Radcliffe Show, for the most part, appear to be unimpressed by this "unexpectedly brilliant broadcasting". For me, the shows they do alone are usually more palatable then the ones they do together.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:46am

on 10/20/07 at 02:56:40, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
I can understand Devon Sprawl struggling as they mumble, interrupt each other and talk in an excitable chatter at times. But do any of us struggle to tell them apart?

.


No, I don't,  If she was a listener to Mark and then Stuart joined you would think that she could tell them apart.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 20th, 2007, 12:45pm

on 10/20/07 at 02:56:40, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
a sofa of literary smugness

I remember in the first week it was a wing-backed armchair...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Oct 20th, 2007, 1:13pm

on 10/20/07 at 12:45:25, Solarman wrote:
I remember in the first week it was a wing-backed armchair...


I think you'll find that Stuart had a stripy deck-chair 'on loan' from Wigan Pier ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Velcro-Incident on Oct 20th, 2007, 10:17pm
"...as much a part of the Radio 2 furniture as Wogan's beloved breakfast bash or Sounds of the 70s."

MY arse!!!!!
It'll be dead by Spring 2008.

Wogan is a legend. Neither of these chancers have got the guts to stand up for what they believe in.

I believe I'm finished here.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 20th, 2007, 10:36pm

on 10/20/07 at 22:17:12, Velcro-Incident wrote:
chancers

Steady on, old fellow...

Whilst one is tempted to concur with your assessment of the likely longevity or otherwise of the current offering, and its paucity in the face of the towering behemoth of achievement that is Wake Up To Wogan, nevertheless Doze Off To Wigan (Or Bolton) is but a stepping-stone in two illustrious and hitherto markedly different careers, presently hovering between greatness and... who knows.

[/and it was all a dream]

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 21st, 2007, 11:59am
"Mon 29 Oct
Simon Armitage guests"

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Oct 21st, 2007, 12:33pm
Doze off to Wigan (or Bolton)  ;D ;D

Velcro - follow the flock to FB - a place of temporary insanity in a sane world  ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Velcro-Incident on Oct 21st, 2007, 3:28pm

on 10/20/07 at 22:36:38, Solarman wrote:
Steady on, old fellow...

Whilst one is tempted to concur with your assessment of the likely longevity or otherwise of the current offering, and its paucity in the face of the towering behemoth of achievement that is Wake Up To Wogan, nevertheless Doze Off To Wigan (Or Bolton) is but a stepping-stone in two illustrious and hitherto markedly different careers, presently hovering between greatness and... who knows.

[/and it was all a dream]


I was having an extremely grumpy day Solarman. Appreciate you well tempered reply.

Daisy - I don't understand FaceBook at all!!!!!
:)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Oct 21st, 2007, 5:17pm
Neither do the rest of us but we muddle along!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 21st, 2007, 5:41pm
arsebook is a waste of MyFace

??? or summat

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 22nd, 2007, 2:21am

on 10/20/07 at 22:36:38, Solarman wrote:
[/and it was all a dream]

Which one of us is in the shower then?

Pass the soap.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Oct 22nd, 2007, 9:28am
Is this something you'd like to talk about, Erotic?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 22nd, 2007, 12:23pm

There was a picture that must have been taken at the same time with cowbells that was in the radio times but this is another one.

Mark and Stuart
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/twenty-four-hours-radio/12/


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Oct 22nd, 2007, 1:19pm
You can see who wears the trousers. Well, alright, you can't. But you know what I mean.

Maconie is taunting the older man with his loud shirt, youthful vigour and tufts of chest hair brazenly on display.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Oct 24th, 2007, 5:02pm
yeah shame about the bald spot mark
and stu's clearly having a bad hair day!
i still would though :P

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Oct 27th, 2007, 9:09am
http://www.somethinelse.com/project/highlife/94.html

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by helen on Oct 29th, 2007, 4:41pm
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/twenty-four-hours-radio/12/

to change the subject slightly..........i didnt know that bianca (riccccccccckkkkkkkkkky) one from eastenders had her own radio show as on the left hand side piccy of the presenter. :D


I've fixed that link - EB

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by helen on Oct 29th, 2007, 4:44pm
R-js first link, i dont think the one i did is working.







for a change ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Nov 1st, 2007, 2:32am

on 10/27/07 at 09:09:52, R_J wrote:
http://www.somethinelse.com/project/highlife/94.html

I was going to say Stuart's joined the mile high club with Mark Lamarr (http://www.somethinelse.com/project/marklamarrsmusicaljourneys/93.html), but thought better of it.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Nov 15th, 2007, 12:55am

on 11/09/07 at 19:30:10, sully5live wrote:
Evening all,

I downloaded and listened again to the Robert Plant/Allison Krauss show and enjoyed it from beginning to end (well, I could have done without "This Just In").  Are they starting to really gel as a team or was it just an extraordinary conjunction of stars, planets, entertaining guests, lively callers and decent music?




on 11/09/07 at 22:15:40, Jocksy S wrote:
I've noticed it too. They are getting better and better. Records may not be the centre point of the show and they do spin the mandatory playlist clanger but they are really doing well. They're pinging things off each other and they're prepared to lose their dignity for a laugh.

They're beginning to play with the medium of radio and mock the standard format. Ken Bruce always makes a good butt of a joke! Jezza Vine and Steve Wright came in for some attention too recently. Radcliffe & Maconie are gradually aligning themselves with the kingpin of Radio Double One, Mark Lamarr.


Salient points. The Krauss/Plant show was an enjoyable show, and I think the guests played a handsome part in that.

It has improved a bit. There are still things that irk, but by far the biggest rub was the constant disappearing of one or t'other. It didn't help, and often showed up both presenters as being better alone then together.(My opinion hasn't changed with respect to that.)

Has the Led Zep. thing given them a free-er hand with the music? It's been a good format that makes a change to a live session. It gets you a thorough interview and several tracks from the artist without mumbling musicians and either presenter say 'yeah, no' to begin their sentences.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Nov 19th, 2007, 8:39pm
Sly plug for the show on the Gadget Show tonight. Sir Nodward testing PVR's In his unique style!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by sully5live on Nov 28th, 2007, 12:08am
They need more Sally Lindsay!!!

Fun programme, great crack, two middle aged men drooling (probably) over an enchanting, buxom soap star.....  
No, seriously,  It's getting better - the last few programes I've downloaded have been very entertaining - Led Zep etc.  It'll never be cutting edge like the Graveyard Shift, but it's what I'm listening to, so it must be better than the rest , right?
I'd much prefer a more serious approach mind you.  Does anyone know what happened to Jane Gazzo on BBc 6music?????

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 2nd, 2007, 2:08pm

on 12/02/07 at 12:25:42, R_J wrote:
Is she in Australia?


She is in Australia being a VJ

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 3rd, 2007, 3:10pm
http://postednotes.blogspot.com/2007/11/mark-radcliffe-on-interactive-radio.html


Quote:

Mark Radcliffe on interactive radio


Another danger is that it gets too interactive. I think radio is in danger of over-relying on email and text - it can be very funny if it comes naturally, but I hear so many programmes that say, with a hint of desperation, 'Text us what you've got left in the back of your fridge.' Actually, why don't *you* think of something to say, instead of doing that? That would be much better.
- Word, May 2007



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 3rd, 2007, 7:07pm
But will Mark follow his own advice??

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 3rd, 2007, 7:35pm
and text himself the contents of his fridge??

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 3rd, 2007, 7:44pm
lambrini, mullerlight yoghurts, strongbow, spinach

*dawns on her why her stomach is so bad all the time*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 3rd, 2007, 9:14pm
Mmmm spinach... that was a lovely sag aloo last night

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 3rd, 2007, 10:15pm
nothing finer than a good sag aloo, yum  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Dec 4th, 2007, 3:43am

on 12/03/07 at 19:44:18, littlemissmosher wrote:
lambrini, mullerlight yoghurts, strongbow, spinach

*dawns on her why her stomach is so bad all the time*

Cut out the the yoghurts and spinache.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 4th, 2007, 9:54am
he's here all week, ladeez n gennelmen ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Dec 4th, 2007, 12:18pm
From todays Guardian site:

"Becks on Radio 2: celebrity worship goes too far
December 4, 2007 11:37 AM

David Beckham. Kate Thornton. Radio 2. Christmas Day. Why? Why?!

Individually, I like them all. But why is the thought of their gestalt - in the form of a special broadcast at 3pm on Christmas Day - so unpalatable?

For two hours the network will host Line of Enquiry...David Beckham. Listeners have until Friday to post questions and song suggestions for this "unmissable Christmas Day special".

No doubt the station will be mystified by my response. It is still so pleased with its programming "coup" that - four days after the announcement - a photo of Becks still dominates its home page, obliterating the usual comforting Radio 2 fare, such as what Nigel Ogden is serving up on The Organist Entertains, or where Clare Teal presents Big Band Special from this week (Birmingham Town Hall, if you must know).

But what is slightly worrying about all of this is Radio 2 controller Lesley Douglas's increasing tendency to prostrate herself in front of the altar of the false god of the celebrity.

There has been the shunting aside of specialist music programmes in the evenings on Monday to Thursday in favour of the ghastly incessant witterings of Mark Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie - Smashy and Nicey redux.


Then there was Davina McCall's grating stint standing in for Ken Bruce. The chatter about herself was incessant: Why she always wears black on Big Brother. Fascinated? Her tendency to flash her bra at Wogan. How hilare!

The exception: Brad Pitt's documentary on the late Nick Drake was a thoughtful examination of a brilliant underrated artist who deserved wider exposure. But that worked because of the Hollywood star's deep appreciation of the folk singer-songwriter's talents.

Returning to the Christmas special, Radio 2 is all about melodic music - not Becks' specialist subject. While I might be fond of the man - this is in the realisation that he has nothing much to say. And as for Kate Thornton, yup, got it, I realise that she is a polarising influence on many of you, but she was a very good host of The X Factor and I think has the warmth to be a real success on Radio 2.

I should get too worked up - I will be tucking into my Christmas lunch at the time this is on and any attempt to lay a place at the table for Radio 2 will be met with extreme hostility.

Lesley, if you do get this far, please resist the temptation to turn the station into Heat FM."





I agree with a lot this guy says, but not quite all!!!

Ian

PS And before anybody says anything he has a go at both of them!!!!!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 4th, 2007, 12:27pm
lol. well who listens to the radio on xmas day? i dont think i even watch tv on that day! too busy cooking/eating/unwrapping presents, im not one of these people who has background noise on all the time when at home, i listen to radio all day at work which is more than enough


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 6th, 2007, 11:42am
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/12/becks_on_radio_2_celebrity_wor.html




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Comment No. 818645
December 5 11:08Mark Radcliffe's 10.30-midnight slot was essential listening if I was driving at that time. I've not really got into Stuart Maconie - much that I respect the guy's knowledge - he always comes across as someone "holding the fort" until a 'proper' presenter turns up. And I'm not sure if pairing them up really works at that timeslot (would have thought they'd be excellent from 10pm, but I guess they don't get the audience to justify the spend).

Olly


I wish Ollybenson was on here.


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Vegi on Dec 7th, 2007, 2:19am

on 12/06/07 at 11:42:20, R_J wrote:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/12/becks_on_radio_2_celebrity_wor.html




I wish Ollybenson was on here.


Perhaps we could exchange him with you RJ.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Vegi on Dec 7th, 2007, 2:32am
Well done IP. You didnt Bite to the Bait, keep it up mate( im a poet me). While were at it, i think Stuart makes me laugh as much( if not more)than Mark lately, also hes got a cheeky little laugh ( schoolboy like) The Shows great IMO.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by TheBunny on Dec 7th, 2007, 8:18pm

on 12/04/07 at 12:27:25, littlemissmosher wrote:
well who listens to the radio on xmas day?

I always listen to Mark Lamarrrrrrr.  Sometimes he reads out my e mithers as well.

I don't think I'm going to get Christmas on my own this year, so I might miss Mr Lamarrr.    :'(

I've caught bits of Radcliffe/Maconie this week while Dr Tom's been on the evening shift.  Just standard Radio Double One fodder, I'm afraid.   :-/

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Vegi on Dec 8th, 2007, 1:53am

on 12/07/07 at 02:19:09, Vegi wrote:
Perhaps we could exchange him with you RJ.


I was only chokin RJ, your views on this board are much appreciated. No hard feelings. :-* :)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Dec 9th, 2007, 4:06am
I'm beginning to think the Mark and Maconie would make for a decent enough telly programme.

They both have experience of presenting.
They both have a lot of experience of music and talking to musicians.
They could both present it but wouldn't have to be joined at the hip like Ant n Dec.

They're both probably busy enough as it is though.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 9th, 2007, 10:40am
Would it be better with pictures? We'd then have to see the dancing that goes on, rather than hear reports of it. Stuart might have a heart attack after all that exercise, he was out of breath after jumping about with Sally Lindsay for two minutes and that was for the five people in the studio, if there was a camera it could be dangerous.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 9th, 2007, 11:35am
Jeremy Clarkson likes them, is that a good thing?


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From The Sunday TimesDecember 9, 2007

Subaru Impreza 2.5 WRX
For an axe murderer, it’s a big softie

Jeremy Clarkson
Most people know the barebones history of rock’n’roll – some black men sang the blues but no one in white America would buy their music because it was the 1950s and, well, that sort of thing didn’t happen.

Eventually, though, the music made it to England, where the misery of it struck a chord with working-class lads. Bands such as the Animals and the Rolling Stones copied it, and they did succeed in America, because, bluntly, Mick Jagger is white.

The thing is, though, I’ve never been able to see the link. I’ve listened to those crackly blues records from Memphis and I’ve listened to Jumpin’ Jack Flash and they appear to have nothing in common. Genetically, they seem as distant from each other as the sausage dog and the Magimix.

But the other night, while listening to a Radio 2 show, I heard a song from 1956 called Smokestack Lightning, and the DJs explained how you could hear the genesis of the Stones in there. They were right – you could. For me, this was a revelation.

And then they started talking about famous fathers and sons who have appeared in bands together. Which is exactly the sort of trivial nonsense I adore. And then they played Sylvia by Focus and I began to think that I’d discovered a radio show designed exclusively for me. It was brilliant – so brilliant that I deliberately got lost so that I could hear more.

It’s hosted by two chaps called Stuart Maconie and Mark Radcliffe, and because they have exactly the same Lancashire accent and exactly the same views on everything, you’ll think – as I did at first – that it’s actually hosted by one man talking to himself. No matter. Their knowledge of music is astonishing. I thought I was the only person alive who could name the guitarist with Focus but they actually know where he was born, where he went to school and, I shouldn’t be surprised, what position his mother was in when he was conceived.

But these guys aren’t anoraks – they are way beyond that. They are the people to whom people who make anoraks go to buy their anoraks. And they serve as a hugely useful introduction to this morning’s sermon: the ongoing battle between the Subaru Impreza and the Mitsubishi Evo.

To normal people, who see cars as wheels, seats and expense, they are exactly the same, built in Japan as road-going versions of rally cars. To the untrained eye, they are indistinguishable one from the other. They are Ant and Dec, or, if you prefer, Maconie and Radcliffe.

They both have 2 litre turbocharged engines. They both have four-wheel drive and they are the same sort of size. Each is a family car with the heart and mind of an axe murderer. But to the trained eye they are not the same at all. To an anorak they really are chalk and cheese. They are Bad Company and Gareth Gates.



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Dec 10th, 2007, 6:51pm

on 12/09/07 at 10:40:11, R_J wrote:
Would it be better with pictures? We'd then have to see the dancing that goes on, rather than hear reports of it. Stuart might have a heart attack after all that exercise, he was out of breath after jumping about with Sally Lindsay for two minutes and that was for the five people in the studio, if there was a camera it could be dangerous.

As if by magic... Visual Radio! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/7132171.stm)

That isn't quite what I meant though. A proper music telly show in addition to the Radio Double One programme. Not Mark and Stuart trying to be a double act but just being two presenters.

More grown up then Channel 4's music programming and without any of Jools Holland's boogey woogie impromptu noodlings.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 10th, 2007, 10:30pm
I've started Adding Value to my Mark & Stuart experience, by playing a little game of my own: "This Just In The Guardian". Every day, I simply scan the media, and predict which stories will be read out word-for-word on the show. Today, it was the vicar who lives in the Led Zeppelin house, and the Fender which got lost in the post.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 10th, 2007, 10:38pm

on 12/10/07 at 22:30:26, Solarman wrote:
I've started Adding Value to my Mark & Stuart experience, by playing a little game of my own: "This Just In The Guardian". Every day, I simply scan the media, and predict which stories will be read out word-for-word on the show. Today, it was the vicar who lives in the Led Zeppelin house, and the Fender which got lost in the post.


You are Alan Rusbridger and I claim my £5 - or maybe Mark/Stuart combine their radio employment with being editor in chief of the Grauniad. Anyway Stuart was on Double One and 6th from 9.30 tonight - nothing like spreading yourself thinly....

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Dec 11th, 2007, 12:35am
He's only little as well, so he'll not spread far.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 11th, 2007, 8:12am
"Don't worry, Tubbs, he'll not spread far!"

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Dec 11th, 2007, 8:55pm

on 12/10/07 at 22:38:53, Daisy wrote:
You are Alan Rusbridger and I claim my £5 - or maybe Mark/Stuart combine their radio employment with being editor in chief of the Grauniad. Anyway Stuart was on Double One and 6th from 9.30 tonight - nothing like spreading yourself thinly....


He's not spreading himself that thinly this year. On New Year's Eve, Craig Charles will be doing the thing on Radio 2 with the Northern Soul and things. Bad news for fans of music and radio is that Shaun Keaveny will be on Radio Double 1, too.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 11th, 2007, 10:15pm

on 12/11/07 at 20:55:50, Celebrity Sheep wrote:
He's not spreading himself that thinly this year. On New Year's Eve, Craig Charles will be doing the thing on Radio 2 with the Northern Soul and things. Bad news for fans of music and radio is that Shaun Keaveny will be on Radio Double 1, too.


I will either be enduring Mr Holland's 'Hootenany' or be pissed in which case I could be anywhere...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 13th, 2007, 11:46am
i shall be in one of the 5 rooms of Oceania nightspot, Plymouthcestershire - inna area ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 19th, 2007, 12:56pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/dec/17/radio.digitaltvradio?gusrc=rss&feed=media


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Radio 2 continued to be the UK's most listened-to station. After winning a Sony gold in April, Mark Radcliffe's weekday late evening show was, oddly, axed and he was teamed up with Stuart Maconie mid-evening: a partnership that fails to bring out the best in either broadcaster.



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 19th, 2007, 1:05pm
http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article3255982.ece


"Mark Radcliffe: The human search engine

As the co-host of radio's most talked about new show of 2007, Mark Radcliffe is helping listeners make sense of a vast and bewildering music scene – and filling a gap that had gone strangely unnoticed by the medium. He talks to Simon O'Hagan
Published: 17 December 2007
It's been a tumultuous year for the music industry. We've had the first No 1 based on downloads alone, Radiohead let their fans pay what they felt like for their latest album, iTunes bestrode the world, unsigned bands were everywhere, and record labels wondered what the hell they could do about it all.

The country went festival-crazy, and for one evening last week it seemed to come to a halt entirely when Led Zeppelin took to the stage once more. An award for best British film went to an account of the life and death of Joy Division's Ian Curtis. Everywhere you looked – in the street, on the train, at their desks – people had their earphones on, lost in music.

The accumulation of half a century of rock'*'pop and all its myriad offshoots, the instant availability of millions of tracks, the constant refinement of the technology that enables us to hear them, and listeners' staggering appetite for artists new and old, mainstream and obscure, add up to a phenomenon that is as bewildering as it is exciting. And this, in a way, is where Mark Radcliffe comes in.

The 49-year-old radio presenter, five times a Sony Award winner, can take half the credit for the show that more than any other tries to make sense of everything that's going on, to provide its audience with a route map through a vast musical landscape. Indeed, when pop historians come to look back on 2007 and decide what was really important about it, they might well conclude that the arrival on the airwaves of a four-nights-a-week Radio 2 music show co-hosted by Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie was no less significant than a bunch of ageing rock gods bashing out "Whole Lotta Love" at the O2 Arena. And there is an argument for suggesting that the latter fed off a musical awareness that the former has done much to foster.

"I think of us as a kind of search engine," Radcliffe says. "It's all very well being able to download any track in the world, but which track?" In a typical programme, the most interesting new releases – drawn broadly from the indie and country scenes – will be mixed in with classic acts from the past, but the obvious is always avoided. "We'll play Smokey Robinson," Radcliffe says, "but it wouldn't be 'Tears of a Clown'. I think that's quite important."

Radcliffe points out a paradox in radio, which is that while it plays a lot of pop and rock, it devotes very little time to discussing it. "Where do you go if you want to find out about music? You've got the papers and magazines and you can read all the reviews but that's not the same as being able to hear it. We thought there was a gap in the market for intelligent but not up-itself chat about records.

"You've got loads of people on the radio talking about TV, books, the news and you've got endless things about politics – far too much air time given to politicians, in my view. The only place you might find it was Front Row on Radio 4, but that's a very particular kind of reviewing and we didn't want to do that. We wanted opinion and conversation that wasn't intimidating or over-intellectualised or over-scripted. The idea seems to have crystallised as the show's gone on."


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 19th, 2007, 1:07pm
"The show – which is broadcast from Manchester and goes out between 8pm and 10pm Mondays to Thursdays – brims with the legacy of misspent youth. Radcliffe and Maconie's musical knowledge is prodigious, the result of a lifetime's devotion to the subject. Discussing music, analysing it, laughing about it, bringing a historical perspective to bear, are all, in the context of the programme, just as important as playing it.

The radio presenter Martin Kelner, who once had a show that Radcliffe produced, speaks for many in the industry when he says that "professional jealousy would normally prevent me praising anyone else's work, but this is one show I am happy to admit enjoying a lot".

Fans of Radcliffe won't need telling that it is also one of the funniest programmes around – a showcase for both men's gift for wit and spontaneity and a key contributor to the Radio 2 success story. Probably the most cherished of its mini-features is "The Chain", in which listeners nominate a record linked in some way to the previous one. In the nine months since the show launched, nearly 400 records have been chosen, in a process that could stretch to infinity.

Then there are the presenters' voices. With his rasping but genial Bolton accent, Radcliffe has one of the most distinctive on radio – unless you're one of those people who thinks he sounds a bit like Maconie, in which case Radcliffe will put you right. "Utterly different! Stuart's from Wigan!" Audience figures of nearly 2 million and rising are impressive for a mid-week evening slot when audiences tend to switch off and turn to the TV.

Radcliffe has a theory about changing listening patterns that he thinks have benefited the show. "One reason I think it's gone quite well is that the evenings used to be seen as a bit of a dead time, but that goes back to a time when everyone finished work at five, had their tea at six, and put the telly on at seven. Now people are working all kinds of hours, they're working later, and life's got a lot more fluid. And by general consensus there's nothing much worth watching on the telly."

There's an anti-television thread that runs through the show. "The idiot box," Radcliffe and Maconie call it. They love it when listeners tell them they've spurned the TV and turned to their show. "I have real belief in radio and what it stands for," Radcliffe says. "And I think I've got more passionate about it as I've got older. A lot of people pass through radio who just see it as a stepping stone to presenting a TV quiz show, but that's not how I see it at all."

Music, the media and Manchester are all in Radcliffe's blood. His father was a newspaperman and broadcaster in Manchester with a large collection of classical records; his mother played the piano. Radcliffe ended up going to Manchester University, on the condition that his nearby mum and dad left him alone.

He started out at Piccadilly Radio but has been at the BBC since 1987, first producing, then broadcasting, largely from Manchester. He now lives in a village in Cheshire with his wife and family. (He has daughters aged eight and five, and one of 19 from a previous marriage). For this interview he has travelled to the nearby town of Knutsford, but he stresses that "I've never felt I've been fighting a great battle on behalf of the north. I like London a lot but it seems almost impossible to live there unless you're prepared to commute a long way or have £10m to spend on a house, and I don't fall into either of those categories."

He isn't thrilled by the prospect of the BBC moving to its new premises in Salford Quays, feeling that its long-time Oxford Road HQ fed off the buzz of being in the heart of the city. Neither does he welcome the relocation of Radio 5 Live from London to Salford. "5 Live seems to be in a way least suited to the move, because if you depend on rolling news, shouldn't you be where the country is run from?"

Radcliffe is still probably best known for the partnership he struck up with Marc Riley ("Mark and Lard") in a Radio 1 show of off-beat music, comedy and readings that built up a devoted following in the mid-1990s, starting out in the late evening before moving to the afternoon. Then when Chris Evans vacated the breakfast slot by joining Virgin in 1997, Mark and Lard were brought in to replace him. The show famously bombed. "It just wasn't right for that time of day," Radcliffe recalls. "We couldn't make it work. We were rightly fired, and at the time it was horrendous."


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 19th, 2007, 1:07pm

"Riley now broadcasts on BBC 6 Music, and Radcliffe has bounced back, though clearly he is drawn to being in a double act. "You can do a different kind of show with someone else there. I find it easier to generate fun and laughter." He's certainly at his best when responding to others. There's a touch of comic genius in the way he feeds off listeners who call in to the show.

People in commercial radio will look enviously at the freedom that a show like Radcliffe and Maconie enjoys. Not for them the narrow musical range that advertisers demand. They are given the Radio 2 playlist but only play what they like on it.

Radcliffe says he thinks commercial radio has lost its way, and that while the BBC may not be under the same kind of pressures for audience figures, they are under other pressures. "I've always felt that the BBC is the benchmark of what radio can be. I've been in situations where we've sat there and thought, 'Right, we could go to the pub now, or we could stay here and work at this for another couple of hours and make it a bit better', and that's what you've ended up doing. I think it's inherent to the BBC that it gets in people who are really aware of these standards. That was the culture that was impressed on me when I started out anyway."

Radcliffe singles out for praise John Walters, the long-time producer of John Peel – "so funny and right and insightful and original" – and thinks that the BBC's maverick spirit is still alive. "They've taken a lot of flak for employing Russell Brand, for example. But they've held firm. Likewise Chris Moyles, who might not be to everyone's tastes, but he's successful."

Which brings us to Jonathan Ross: is he worth all that money? "Obviously his salary is not justifiable in terms of the work he does compared with the work that, say, a nurse does, but that's not really the equation. The equation is more to do with what you think the BBC is for. And if you think the BBC should provide top entertainment to a mass audience and Ross can deliver that, then you can't look at it in terms of his wage, but in terms of the price of the product that the BBC creates. If we want light entertainment and these are the high-profile people, then the BBC is going to have to have some of it, and it won't get it cheaper than elsewhere."

And what of Radcliffe's future? "Stuart and I have a vision of us as two old blokes in wingback chairs dictating little links from a library on the shores of a loch somewhere. Hopefully Radio 2 will see me through. That's the thing about radio: why would you need to stop?"


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 19th, 2007, 9:13pm
Are you keeping note of these consecutive postings Erotic?

We're on a par and its a race to the finish!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Dec 19th, 2007, 9:16pm
That sounds like a really great show. When is it on?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 19th, 2007, 9:30pm
We're here all week...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general threa
Post by Vegi on Dec 20th, 2007, 2:01am
PLEASE!!! stop knocking the show. >:( Its got to be better than the( Organist Entertains) Also keeps me entertained whilst out Running( jogging now, due to dodgy ankles) on these cold winter nights. :)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 20th, 2007, 8:41am
Being better than The Organist Entertains is not in itself a compelling reason to listen. Especially when Marc is still churning out don't-miss radio next door.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Dec 20th, 2007, 11:04am
The most insightful part of the whole article is the last quote which begins, "Stuart and I..."

A rubbish article on the part of the interviewer and the interviewee. Lies, lies and more lies, especially the part where he cites Smokey Robinson tunes in trying to claim that they avoid the obvious and overplayed, don't kid yourself, Radcliffe.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 20th, 2007, 11:08am
im afraid i took a lot of it with a pinch of sodium chloride too >:(

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 20th, 2007, 11:09am
"Hopefully Radio 2 will see me through." (Not "us"). Well it might, Mark, or it might see you to the door!

It reads like an admission of feet-under-the-table, marking time until retirement (which DJs don't do anyway: ref. Sir Jimmys Savile and Young... Sir Jimmy Radcliffe, anyone?)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 20th, 2007, 11:20am
maybe he thinks he's done his bit with regard to the more cutting-edge/"different" side of radio and cant be arsed anymore, he is nearly 50 you know! the likes of peel only come along once in a blue moon, after all.
he will able to supplement his income with appearances on things like "grumpy old men" for years to come, and why shouldnt he, noone on here is in a position to dictate what he does, i could grumble about the films my film god nic cage does these days, in a similar way, for example
- plus im sure he acknowledges the fact that his ex is keeping the side up much more in terms of bringing us new bands/sounds, im sure that has had an influence on his direction, even if only subconsiously...thats what i reckon anyroad :)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 20th, 2007, 11:23am
Gonna call him Jimmy Radcliffe (or J.R.) from now on - in the ageing R2 Grumpy Old DJs Club!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 20th, 2007, 12:19pm

on 12/20/07 at 11:23:14, Solarman wrote:
Gonna call him Jimmy Radcliffe (or J.R.) from now on - in the ageing R2 Grumpy Old DJs Club!


J.R., R_J - it's all going to pot I tell ye!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Neil_B on Dec 20th, 2007, 3:27pm
There was a soul singer called Jimmy Radcliffe  ;D

http://www.spectropop.com/bacharach/JimmyR.jpg

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 20th, 2007, 3:48pm
that would be known by you ;D

phoowoar what a stunner and no mishtake ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Dec 20th, 2007, 4:11pm
EXCELLENT!  ;D
"Long after tonight is all over", eh? Read into that... And it's a Manchester address!

What can we do with Stuart?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 20th, 2007, 7:00pm
He's welcome here for Christmas - but I think LMM might appreciate him more  ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 21st, 2007, 9:06am

on 12/20/07 at 19:00:42, Daisy wrote:
He's welcome here for Christmas - but I think LMM might appreciate him more  ;)

he's a married man daisy! as if i would ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 21st, 2007, 11:50am

on 12/21/07 at 09:06:12, littlemissmosher wrote:
he's a married man daisy! as if i would ::)


::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Dec 21st, 2007, 9:46pm

on 12/20/07 at 08:41:55, Solarman wrote:
Being better than The Organist Entertains is not in itself a compelling reason to listen. Especially when Marc is still churning out don't-miss radio next door.


Nowt wrong with the 'Organist Entertains', though I prefer church organs, myself.

Anyway, this still doesn't help me. Does anyone know what drugs I can take to get me through the show when British Sea Power are on?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Dec 25th, 2007, 2:32am
Thanks for posting the article R_J.

The interview is as contentious as the show itself! There are bits worth persevering with in Mark and Maconie - they can make me laugh, some of the music is good and some of the guests and live sessions have been enjoyable as well. It just doesn't feels as consistent as the old Mark Radcliffe show for me.

The article points out the novelty of presenters actually discussing the music they play - it's unusual for Radio 2, but not for radio in general. 6Music certainly spends ages talking about music. It eats, sleeps and breaths it. I'm sure there are plenty of other stations with knowledgeable people at the helm imparting that data to the eager listener.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Dec 25th, 2007, 10:59pm
Well said Erotic - some mark is better than no mark - but, oh how we all wish it was as it used to be... :'(

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Post by ip33 on Dec 26th, 2007, 6:27pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/musictv/popontrial/

Yes I know it's on the idiot box but it is presented by the ever
popular Stuart Maconie!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Dec 26th, 2007, 6:38pm

on 12/25/07 at 02:32:33, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
The article points out the novelty of presenters actually discussing the music they play - it's unusual for Radio 2, but not for radio in general. 6Music certainly spends ages talking about music. It eats, sleeps and breaths it. I'm sure there are plenty of other stations with knowledgeable people at the helm imparting that data to the eager listener.


I've got to disagree. Where are the music stations willing to treat the audience with any intelligence? 6Music seems to want to alienate most of it's original listeners with only a few shows still worth the licence fee (Riley, Gid, TR and of course The Freak Zone). Since Peel went Radio1 has badly lost it's way. Advert Radio (sic) doesn't care, when you can only choose from 30 or 40 tracks, the music can't matter!

The only stations worth the effort are on the internet, perhaps that where MR may end up!

Ian

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Post by ip33 on Jan 19th, 2008, 8:02pm
Hope this in the right place!!!!!!!


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Stuart Maconie's passion for music of all forms puts other DJs to shame

Radcliffe and Maconie Radio 2

Stuart Maconie Radio 2

Stuart Maconie's Freak Zone 6 Music

Music radio has a surfeit of DJs who are, at best, uninterested in music. You wouldn't get very far in speech broadcasting if you weren't keen on - or, at least, benignly accepting of - the sound of your own voice, and yet acres of radio space is taken up with people who see their job as nothing more than creating "good links" between their station's 12-song playlist, which invariably contains music that sounds like Helen Shapiro being force-fed Chewits. (This, apparently, is more commonly known as "Amy Winehouse".)

Commercial DJs are the worst culprits, though things brighten up considerably on National Express journeys when the driver puts on Heart FM and you hear the Scissor Sisters three times in two hours. None can compare with the music-devouring enthusiasm of Stuart Maconie, surely the BBC's hardest-working man, who, with Mark Radcliffe, has transformed Radio 2's 8pm-10pm slot on Mondays to Thursdays into a showcase for tunes of quality and distinction.

Maconie is a man of many voices. Four nights a week, he's the softly spoken foil to Radcliffe, who at times becomes so shouty you have to turn the sound down. They bat Nick Hornby-level music trivia at each other without ever sounding as though they are flicking through laminated copies of Record Collector beneath the desk. Maconie is more of a pop and soul man, while Radcliffe is brainy art-rock all the way.

Their year-old partnership seemed wrong and superfluous to begin with, though the idea was theirs and not, as I feared, that of someone high up at Radio 2 thinking how "earthy" it would be to put two men from the north-west in a radio booth at the same time. Easily good enough as solo broadcasters, they can still make the show feel a little too much, as though one of them is vying - unconsciously or otherwise - with the other for the soul of the programme.

This may be Radcliffe's overbearing voice (which I never used to notice during his long Radio 1 partnership with Marc "Lard" Riley), or Maconie's comparative gentleness, but it matters little when they manage to get so much good new music heard by so many people. Maconie manages the same on his Saturday-afternoon show, also on Radio 2 (2pm-4.30pm), where he slips in at least one ear-prickingly unusual track for each overplayed chestnut.

Last Saturday's programme showcased, in his words, his coldy "all-new post-Christmas voice, arrived at by a strict diet of Bombay Sapphire and cheese footballs and two hours' sleep a night". He interviewed two ebullient Russian men about a forthcoming live event that will showcase their country's top pop acts, and which includes a singer called Bianca who mixes traditional Russian music with American R'n'B. It was a tease too far that he didn't then play any, but instead went straight to Radio 2 default with a combination of Genesis, Matt Monro ("the tiny former bus driver with the enormous voice") and Joss Stone.

Oh well. I would imagine that this is Maconie's most musically hamstrung show by far, though it could be that he's far less of a music snob than I am. The one show where he gets to delve deepest into his musical knowledge is his extraordinary Sunday-evening programme on 6 Music, the Freak Zone (5pm-8pm), which tests even its regular listeners - many of whom, it seems, email Maconie to complain that he went "too far" the previous week by playing 17-minute-long dub reggae epics at teatime - with its eclecticism.

Last Sunday's was a walk through HMV by comparison to previous shows. We got the German-language version of Kraftwerk's "Home Computer" - yay! He followed a long, elegiac piece of contemporary music by Morton Feldman with an irrepressible: "I love 'im! He's terrific!" You'd never hear anyone saying that on Radio 3.

In recent weeks, he has also played an instrumental track by Arcade called "Chelmsley Wood", one of only two songs ever to mention my east Birmingham homestead (the other being "Michael a Grammar" by the feted West Midlands electronic band Broadcast). No wonder I love him so.


This is exactly why Stuart is as good as he is!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Jan 21st, 2008, 9:49pm
"They bat Nick Hornby-level music trivia at each other without ever sounding as though they are flicking through laminated copies of Record Collector beneath the desk. "

They aren't! They use google these days. They do sometimes make the show sound thrown together when it isn't though, which is a craft not to be sniffed at.

"Easily good enough as solo broadcasters, they can still make the show feel a little too much, as though one of them is vying - unconsciously or otherwise - with the other for the soul of the programme. "

Nail. Hit. On. Head.

One thing that does get my goat a bit is the 'previously on' clips at the start. I'm guessing other Radio 2 shows play Radcliffe and Maconie trailers but it always sounds like a naff trailer the other shows refuse to play.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Jan 21st, 2008, 10:08pm

on 01/21/08 at 21:49:37, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
I'm guessing other Radio 2 shows play Radcliffe and Maconie trailers

Guessing because, like the rest of us, who listens to R2 at ANY other time?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Jan 21st, 2008, 10:57pm
Hahaha. Depends whether Mark is filling in for Steve Wright.  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jan 22nd, 2008, 9:48am
that could become permanent if he gets convicted ;D
(sorry)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jan 26th, 2008, 9:51am
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stuart_Maconie&diff=prev&oldid=185835861

One persons point of view that was then removed from the Wikipedia page, there are a few more down the list that are worth reading too, if you click on older edits.

It's good to know I'm not the only one who thinks he's not that great.

edit, I'm not sure about the use of 'erstwhile' though, erstwhile means 'former' doesn't it? .... I wish.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Jan 26th, 2008, 1:43pm
Alright, own up. Which one of us was this: Mark Radcliffe on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Radcliffe&diff=185275316&oldid=184850335).

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Jan 26th, 2008, 3:35pm
hmmmm, looks like the work of someone with a deep and unhealthy knowledge of the guy, and nothing else to do

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jan 26th, 2008, 4:25pm

on 01/26/08 at 15:35:18, Solarman wrote:
hmmmm, looks like the work of someone with a deep and unhealthy knowledge of the guy, and nothing else to do


Can't think of anyone like that!!!!!!!!! ;)

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Jan 27th, 2008, 12:21am

on 01/26/08 at 13:43:14, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
Alright, own up. Which one of us was this: Mark Radcliffe on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Radcliffe&diff=185275316&oldid=184850335).


Is that real?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Jan 27th, 2008, 2:35am
Yes it's real. Someone playing silly buggers and subsequently having their comments removed, and then putting it back, only for it to be removed two minutes later.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jan 27th, 2008, 10:20am
Someones been reading this board by the looks of it.

edit, Do you mean to minutes in time EB or two minutes down the page?

another edit, Oh you mean removed two minutes later not put back.

yet another edit to save mr baubles putting them all together later; I've just seen the bit where it says "don't be so effing childish"   :)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jan 27th, 2008, 10:55am
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Radcliffe&diff=next&oldid=187030412

This bit must have been done after you pointed it out yesterday Mr B, that's if the time is right.

The same person who wrote in the parrot bit removed the parrot bit and then added a new bit further down the page about 'Mark chipping in' .

It must be the same person as all three have the same number next  to them.

I don't know much about computers but is that number beginning with 8 the IP number?  What does IP stand for? and the IP numbers are logged on here as it says so at the bottom right of the page, if you want to find out who it is can you not match the numbers from here to the one on there?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jan 27th, 2008, 11:40am
I've found this
http://www.huikuri.com/flash/data/yabb/YaBBHelp/handle.html

So I can see 'IP logged' and the forum staff see the IP number,
So you must be able to see the IP addresses Mr Baubles? Does it match someone on here?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jan 27th, 2008, 12:17pm

on 01/27/08 at 11:40:04, R_J wrote:
I've found this
http://www.huikuri.com/flash/data/yabb/YaBBHelp/handle.html

So I can see 'IP logged' and the forum staff see the IP number,
So you must be able to see the IP addresses Mr Baubles? Does it match someone on here?


Surely that's a privacy issue. If it matches anyones on here (which it probably doesn't!) does it matter?

Wikipedia is crap anyway and this proves it!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Jan 27th, 2008, 1:52pm
I prefer to rely on Guy Garvey's BeckipediaTM - because I need to know.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Jan 27th, 2008, 5:13pm

on 01/27/08 at 12:17:51, ip33 wrote:
Wikipedia is crap anyway and this proves it!

Ian

Indeed. Someone added "The show is mainly Maconie's with Radcliffe chipping in from time to time." (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Radcliffe&diff=187241067&oldid=187030590) in petty retaliation. That was also subsequently removed.


on 01/27/08 at 11:40:04, R_J wrote:
I've found this
http://www.huikuri.com/flash/data/yabb/YaBBHelp/handle.html

So I can see 'IP logged' and the forum staff see the IP number,
So you must be able to see the IP addresses Mr Baubles? Does it match someone on here?

Most domestic internet connections are assigned an IP number by your Internet Service Provider when you connect to the internet. This number changes within a particular range of numbers assigned to that ISP each time to connect so they can be a bit clumsy for tieing people to IP numbers.

I can see them but they're only of interest to me for blocking spammers from posting their wares.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jan 28th, 2008, 10:43am
So we still don't know who it is then. Whoever it was, they must have read this board as it wasn't long after you found it that it was changed.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Jan 28th, 2008, 11:14am
Do we really care??

Clearly the noodlings of someone with more time than sense.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jan 28th, 2008, 11:19am
that dont really narrow down the list of suspects does it ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Feb 1st, 2008, 9:12am
Guy Garvey's show came from Mark & Stuart's studio this week (he called it "Mark's studio", R_J). "It's full of strange toys, it's like a music therapy studio," observed Guy. Elbow's first ever session was recorded there: "I never thought I'd end up on this side of the desk."

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Feb 1st, 2008, 2:42pm
Badly Drawn boy said at about 5 past 6 on Roundtable after Elbow were played that he was on "Mark Radcliffe's show" and saw Guy Garvey and Guy was going for a drink with Marc Riley.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Feb 1st, 2008, 7:38pm

on 02/01/08 at 14:42:19, R_J wrote:
Badly Drawn boy said at about 5 past 6 on Roundtable after Elbow were played that he was on "Mark Radcliffe's show" and saw Guy Garvey and Guy was going for a drink with Marc Riley.


Don't worry,I've sent an e-mail correcting Mr Boy.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Feb 1st, 2008, 9:37pm

on 02/01/08 at 14:42:19, R_J wrote:
Badly Drawn boy said at about 5 past 6 on Roundtable after Elbow were played that he was on "Mark Radcliffe's show" and saw Guy Garvey and Guy was going for a drink with Marc Riley.


If I had a pound for every time Guy Garvey and Marc Riley have gone for a drink, I might be able to afford to buy some of the records Marc plays.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Feb 2nd, 2008, 9:56am
Mark said they have made 'pick of the week' this week with the lost "this just in".


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Feb 10th, 2008, 11:07am
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/radio-heads

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Feb 10th, 2008, 1:28pm
Good to see plenty of support for The Rad-Mac show, also nice to quite a bit for the Freak Zone.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Feb 15th, 2008, 8:35pm
Some early Stuart appearing on John Peel sitting in for Mark and Lard, whoever they were :D

http://www.ahu24.dial.pipex.com/misc/rich_stew_on_john_peels_show02.mp3

Ian


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Feb 15th, 2008, 11:32pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2256026,00.html
A Mr. S. Maconie postulates on north-south type things (again)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by helen on Feb 16th, 2008, 6:50pm

on 02/15/08 at 20:35:59, ip33 wrote:
Some early Stuart appearing on John Peel sitting in for Mark and Lard, whoever they were :D

http://www.ahu24.dial.pipex.com/misc/rich_stew_on_john_peels_show02.mp3

Ian




whhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooo???????

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Feb 16th, 2008, 7:40pm

on 02/15/08 at 20:35:59, ip33 wrote:
Some early Stuart appearing on John Peel sitting in for Mark and Lard, whoever they were :D

http://www.ahu24.dial.pipex.com/misc/rich_stew_on_john_peels_show02.mp3

Ian

You still don't really get it Ian, do you?



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Feb 16th, 2008, 7:41pm
How have I ended up in Ian's quote? (leave it, not in the mood)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Apr 8th, 2008, 3:07pm
In the mood yet?  ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Apr 8th, 2008, 6:20pm

on 04/08/08 at 15:07:10, Solarman wrote:
In the mood yet?  ;D


Always in the mood for you Solar  ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Apr 26th, 2008, 9:31am
Mark wins award

http://www.radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.3311

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by helen on Apr 26th, 2008, 11:36pm

on 04/26/08 at 09:31:35, R_J wrote:
Mark wins award

http://www.radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.3311

 nice one for mr modest.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Apr 27th, 2008, 11:56am
As Mark said on Thursday The Family Mahone were part of a question on Eggheads

24 minutes 30 into the programme

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00b122s.shtml?src=ip_mlt

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Erotic_Baubles on Apr 28th, 2008, 3:24am

on 04/26/08 at 09:31:35, R_J wrote:
Mark wins award

http://www.radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.3311

He deserves it. Very good listening at times.


Edit: Just a thought. Radcliffe and Maconie is now the most popular Listen Again on Radio 2 I think they were saying last week. That's good on one level but bad on another if people are not bothered about listening live. It does make the shows better in my experience. It's too tempting to skip stuff on listen again.

Could Marc Riley be stealing live listeners on a Wednesday and Thursday?


Edit again:

Monday 28th April
Mark and Emma sit in for Steve Wright and the team to bring you chat, music and celebrity guests.

Tuesday 29th April
Same again.

Wednesday 30th April
And again.

Thursday 1st May
Ditto.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on May 3rd, 2008, 10:02am

on 04/26/08 at 09:31:35, R_J wrote:
Mark wins award

http://www.radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.3311


http://www.flickr.com/photos/howdo/2455332050/sizes/l/in/set-72157604812818592/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2455332050_0edda78beb_b.jpg





http://www.flickr.com/photos/howdo/2454503545/in/photostream/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2454503545_934337416a.jpg?v=0

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on May 4th, 2008, 11:39am
http://www.how-do.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2452&Itemid=26


Quote:
And the ceremony was well rounded-off by the personality crown going to the ever affable and somewhat dazed Mark Radcliffe – who, as a life-long City fan was clearly unused to having a good time at Old Trafford.  

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on May 6th, 2008, 12:05pm

on 04/28/08 at 03:24:55, Erotic_Baubles wrote:
[quote]Edit: Just a thought. Radcliffe and Maconie is now the most popular Listen Again on Radio 2 I think they were saying last week. That's good on one level but bad on another if people are not bothered about listening live. It does make the shows better in my experience. It's too tempting to skip stuff on listen again.

Could Marc Riley be stealing live listeners on a Wednesday and Thursday?



MOST POPULAR SHOWS
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This week it has dropped out of the top five.


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on May 18th, 2008, 2:40pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioassets/photos/2008/5/16/41520_2.jpg


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by pixiedancer on May 18th, 2008, 9:24pm
*SHUDDER*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on May 19th, 2008, 1:49pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on May 19th, 2008, 3:18pm
I wouldn't know where to start to make those images of Mark and Stuart. The woman that made it was called Sue I think and If you want to hear what Mark and Stuart thought they talked about it on last Thursday's show.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jun 8th, 2008, 12:39pm
http://www.radioacademypodcast.co.uk/podcast/?podcast_id=17

Mark Radcliffe being interviewd by Trevor Dann

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jun 20th, 2008, 12:06pm
http://www.tonywilsonexperience.com/about.php

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/entertainment/s/1054574_tony_wilson_experience_the_lowdown

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/entertainment/s/1054573_the_tony_wilson_experience_running_order?related_link

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/entertainment/s/1054562_ttwe_mark_radcliffe

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jun 22nd, 2008, 11:02am

http://i4sm.org/blog/2008/06/21/twe-hour-2-mark-radcliffe-and-stuart-maconie

"TWE Hour 2. Mark Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie
by Paul Carruthers

I wonder what Wilson would have made of social media? I’d bet he’d be there, right in the centre of what’s happening in Manchester and getting his hands dirty. Embrace it? Of course. Feel threatened by it? Unlikely.

I also think he’d be right there at the beginning of i4SM and driving it forward.

13:10 - Stuart Maconie is late…and Mark Radcliffe is 50. He’s also telling porkies about the press rooms screens not working. Elliot Rashman stepping in for Maconie.

Getting into small radio stations was a better route into the industry than being a researcher at the BBC. Recalling how you could just get stuff done, by weedling your way around the organisation. Piccadilly Radio back in the day reflected this - Mancunia music just wasn’t being played. But Radcliffe was able to get into the playlist after pestering to get on the air. Eventually they got two hours one day to play A Certain Ratio, followed by the local cricket scores!

Rashman asking how the radio nowadays can get by without even having human DJ’s during the day! It’s an interesting one. Technology has replaced the old style DJ’s because after all, XFM etc are commercial stations - the bottom line is king, and replacing DJ’s with pre-recorded ‘junk’ helps the bottom line.

Even I’ve been one of XFM’s DJ’s. I kid not. Link to follow.

13:15 - here’s an echo for i4SM’s ideals. Tony and Mark Radcliffe both massive proponents of the North and Manchester in particular. You shouldn’t have to go to London - there’s a massive pool of talent, creativity and drive up here and Manchester needs to stick it’s head above the parapet a bit more.

That’s me speaking. But Radcliffe, Wilson and i4SM have the same goal at heart.

13:20 - Maconie: Wilson felt that if you didn’t have people who thought you were wrong, then you weren’t doing something right! Radcliffe…”Yeah, I lost 2million listeners from the Radio 1 breakfast show.” Applause…and just because it didn’t work, doesn’t mean you were wrong. That’s the spirit. That’s the kind of attitude we need more around the country…its a trait that Americans have in spades.

Indeed, business schools will tell you…fail twice to succeed in business.

Radcliffe is eminently entertaining. Effortless in his northern-ness and a genuine nature that justsmakes you want to go out for a pint with him. That’s a digression.

13:25 - Wilson saw Factory Records as being in the lineage of great northern creations. The canals, industrial revolution and the new Joy Division album. Hey and why not? Manchester needed a leap of faith and Wilson was keen on ensuring that it took the leap.

Look around you. Perhaps Wilson had a profound effect on what has been the Manchester renaissance, giving us a peek at the “bright lights of possibility into a bleak landscape”. Manchester has a wonderful history of invention…yet we could argue that it doesn’t capitalise. Baby (the first memory capable computer) is an interesting case in point. The first computer music (early MP3 here)…let’s break that down - Manchester invents the computerand ends up with a massive music industry. This is Manchester.

The US takes the computer and forms a huge new industrial and service sector for the rest of the world. They get Silicon Valley. We get Factory Records. Which is better? The world would always have had the computer…but perhaps not Factory Records.

13:35 - Lovely story from Radcliffe about Wilson bringing Blue Monday into Picadilly Radio and demanding he played it immediately. Not the A-sde though…the instrumental B-side! After 7 or 8 minutes…well, you get the picture.

Interesting Wilson theory. His cycle was 13 years…1963, 1976, 1989 - seismic ripples in the music industry. Wilson takes on  Schumpeter anyone?

13:50 - Lovely comment on the mogulus channel. “Wilson - the author of manchester”."

   

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Solarman on Jun 22nd, 2008, 11:08am
What's "TWE Hour 2"???

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jun 22nd, 2008, 11:14am
Tony Wilson Experience hour 2 of the 24


Quote:
12noon Steve Coogan, Peter Saville, Alex Poots;
1pm Mark Radcliffe Stuart Maconie;
2pm Stuart Maconie, Steve Coogan;
3pm Liam Spencer, Phil Griffin;
4pm Frank Sidebottom;
4:15pm Ben Kelly, Tom Bloxham (Emma Murphy host);
5pm Jayne Casey, James Barton, Peter Hooton (host Elliot Rashman);
6pm 'So It Goes' screening, Sex Pistols episode;
6.30pm Clint Boon, Bob Dickinson in 'So It Goes' discussion;
7pm Sue Woodward, Ray Gosling, Mike Spencer (Jim Hancock host);
8pm Matt Greenhalgh, Grant Gee, Peter Hook (John Robb host);
9pm Irvine Welsh, Paul Morley;
10pm Kevin Cummins, Ian Tilton, Karen McBride (Emma Murphy host)
11pm Stephen Morris, Gillian Gilbert, Caroline Elleray (John Robb host);
12midnight John Cooper Clarke, Stella Grundy, Alan Wise;
1am ACR live set on stage at Urbis; 2am Fashion slot (guests speakers tbc);
3am Musicians slot (guest speakers tbc); 4am Elliot Rashman, Steve Connor on Situationism;
5-7am Open mic session featuring some of the participants chosen for the event and the wider pool of experienced creatives attending;
7am Business Breakfast with the entrepreneurs - David Derbyshire, Gary McLarnan, Sarah Pearson, Elliot Rashman (Rose Marley host);
8am Sir Richard Leese, Iain Bennett (Jim Hancock host);
9am Simon Armitage, Steve Martland (Bob Dickinson host);
10am Alan McGee, Tim Burgess, Belowsky;
11am Professor Brian Cox, Peter Saville, Stephen Morris (Bob Dickinson host);
12noon Mike Garry, performance poet reads St Anthony poem;
12.05 finish.


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jul 23rd, 2008, 12:10pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/cambridgefolkfestival/2008/presenterschoice/

Video of Mark and Mike talking about Cambridge this year

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Jul 27th, 2008, 11:40am
Mark's new book.

http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=6318435

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Jul 27th, 2008, 12:09pm
Is he okay?

You would hope that thinking over all the stuff would put him in the mood to try to recapture the glory years. Instead, he's awfully close to deserving another clip round the ear with a golf club.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jul 27th, 2008, 1:23pm
Only one book! Andrew Collins has managed three (really good) books about his childhood and showbiz life.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thank-You-Days-Mark-Radcliffe/dp/184737350X/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217161291&sr=1-5

Should be an interesting read, his other two were pretty decent.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Jul 27th, 2008, 2:16pm
The synopsis sounds like an admission that it's all downhill from now on. He's only 50! You don't have to give up! Look at Peel! If he was alive still, he'd be 70 and I'd imagine Radio 1's first septuagenarian.

I'm 84 y'know

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Jul 27th, 2008, 3:53pm

on 07/27/08 at 14:16:49, Cyril Benson wrote:
I'm 84 y'know


I've got feather boas older than you ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jul 27th, 2008, 6:20pm
i wouldnt want a beau-a that old, kerrist almighty, i cant afford stannah stairlifts or colostomy bags on my earnings ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Jul 27th, 2008, 7:04pm
Ageing beaux have one advantage, though - you can....

what was it? what day is it??

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Jul 27th, 2008, 7:05pm
MAKE YOURSELF A BENEFICIARY, AND THEN WAIT TO CASH IN!!! That was it. I'm leaving everything to Shabba, what he'd do with a crumbling cottage (outside privy) in today's market I've no idea

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Aug 28th, 2008, 3:31pm
damn i knew i shouldnt have told Mark n Stu about my hobby and main job, they kept that jingle hidden! ::) :o ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Aug 30th, 2008, 6:48pm

on 07/27/08 at 15:53:39, Daisy wrote:
I've got feather boas older than you ;D


Who died and made you Nicky Wire? ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Aug 30th, 2008, 6:54pm

on 07/27/08 at 12:09:37, Jocksy S wrote:
Is he okay?

You would hope that thinking over all the stuff would put him in the mood to try to recapture the glory years. Instead, he's awfully close to deserving another clip round the ear with a golf club.


Is there a chapter entitled " The Day I was Castrated By Lesley Douglas" or one called "The Day I Went To The Pub With Stuart Maconie"?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Aug 30th, 2008, 8:30pm

on 08/30/08 at 18:54:50, Celebrity Sheep wrote:
Is there a chapter entitled " The Day I was Castrated By Lesley Douglas" or one called "The Day I Went To The Pub With Stuart Maconie"?


That's at least half a book  ;D

I am Nicky Wire and I claim your five pounds  ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 9th, 2008, 9:14pm
Right...
And that tells us precisely what?  ??? ???

this made sense when i posted it - but R_J's taken her post away

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Sep 14th, 2008, 5:18pm

on 09/09/08 at 21:14:07, Daisy wrote:
Right...
And that tells us precisely what?  ??? ???

this made sense when i posted it - but R_J's taken her post away


Can't you get jailed for that?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 14th, 2008, 6:36pm
Stuart's new book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adventure-High-Teas-Search-England/dp/0091926505/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221413543&sr=1-8

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by J_R_Hartless on Sep 14th, 2008, 9:11pm
Jeez - you English and your tea! I'd like to read that funny little book by that funny little guy.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by swellin_hartless on Sep 15th, 2008, 2:30pm
So, this is where you're a-hidin' from me J_R! You should know that my private dicks will always find you!

I'd just like to apologise to all you good folks, and tellya that my estranged pardner's comments do NOT represent the views of tha entire Hartless Family!

Now, I'm a just goin' to shoot a moose with my gal pal Sarah Palin  :-* :-*



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by J_R_Hartless on Sep 15th, 2008, 8:04pm
I've been a-hidin' from a good many folks, Swellen, but since you married that Britisher music magazine editor, I kinda got to thinkin' you'd lost interest in findin' me... then I come on here and find you a-heffin'anjeffin' all over the place! There'll be more, you Mark my Word.

Maconie should get his own show on British Radio 2!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by swellin_hartless on Sep 15th, 2008, 9:24pm
J_R! how very dare ya suggest that that there macoroni guy should usurp the president of broad (and i mean that in the *broadest* sense)casting that is the lord's presence on earth - you an' me J_R, we know the facts, and there ain't nothin on the face of this planet that's gonna stop me and cliff barnes tellin' everyone!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by J_R_Hartless on Sep 15th, 2008, 9:38pm
I'll say it agayyan, Swellin', Moroni is the finest evenin' presenter a ranchman got lucky could ever hope to tune in to! Does that get your goat?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by swellin_hartless on Sep 15th, 2008, 9:47pm
J_R! you of all peoples should know that that goat an' me, well, we got history... and ah don't think that you should be givin' peoples all kindsof ideas about somethin that was just really, really special...

ahm gonna be talkin to mah lawyers, pretty soon, big boy!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by J_R_Hartless on Sep 15th, 2008, 9:56pm
Had that lawyer of yours in my ranch. Took him for my lunch. Big mistake. His, that is.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Sep 15th, 2008, 9:58pm
Fooken Yanks tekkin' over in here an' all.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 15th, 2008, 10:11pm

on 09/15/08 at 21:58:54, Cyril Benson wrote:
Fooken Yanks tekkin' over in here an' all.


my sentiments exactly, Cyril.

whatever next??

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Celebrity Sheep on Sep 18th, 2008, 11:28pm

on 09/15/08 at 21:56:36, J_R_Hartless wrote:
Had that lawyer of yours in my ranch. Took him for my lunch. Big mistake. His, that is.


I think I've cracked it.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Sep 18th, 2008, 11:35pm

on 09/18/08 at 23:28:00, Celebrity Sheep wrote:
I think I've cracked it.


that'll be you and J_R then, Sheep-o!!

i notice he's disappeared since Swellen appeared...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Sep 29th, 2008, 8:51pm
nice new pic of mark on the i-player screen for his deputising with emma ;D reet twinkly ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Sep 30th, 2008, 2:53pm
just listening to mon's show (minus songs ive heard too much, altho ff-ing on a 3 hour show requires a steady hand on the mouse!) - someone texted/emailed in saying "hi stuart and emma".........not sure who it was from - ian someone ?!?!?!?! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Sep 30th, 2008, 3:07pm
poor planning having ralf on again though*yawn*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 30th, 2008, 4:18pm

on 09/30/08 at 14:53:32, littlemissmosher wrote:
just listening to mon's show (minus songs ive heard too much, altho ff-ing on a 3 hour show requires a steady hand on the mouse!) - someone texted/emailed in saying "hi stuart and emma".........not sure who it was from - ian someone ?!?!?!?! ;D ;D ;D


Oi!!!!

I don't listen to daytime Radio 2!!! .....well not often!!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Oct 2nd, 2008, 9:47pm
I like Emma, but she's not as good with Mark as Liza.

Loved the egg-slicer stuff - wonder when the Mahones will incorporate this instrument ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Velcro-Incident on Oct 4th, 2008, 12:34am
Did anyone ever play that game? "Didn't you used to be...?"
You know? Didn't you used to be Paul McCartney?
Didn't you used to be David Bowie?

Then you sank into a comfortable, inexplicable less talented middle-age. A shadow of your former self. I think I have even heard certain former 'pain in the arse DJs' play this game.

Didn't you used to be Mark Radcliffe?



Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Spudgun on Oct 4th, 2008, 1:16am
Harsh.............but fair.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Oct 7th, 2008, 10:28pm
Alas...

Apart from the sh*te music and the sh*te guests I prefer Mark in the afternoon than with Marconi of an evening. The fact that he's put head to head with TAFKAL is a misfortune but... he's not done himself any favours.

*remembers to tell pix which pubs are having the hoolie on the 18th*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Velcro-Incident on Oct 8th, 2008, 9:43pm
I don't know what I'm talking about half the time. Radcliffe in a tepid phase is still thrice the broadcaster of well... anyone (usual fabulous suspects excepted). Equally Macca is still fabber than a large chunk of these modern 'indie' fellows. And Bowie, well, still a genius. I'm a-flippin and a-floppin all over the place... Mr Ambivalent, that's me. ???

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Oct 10th, 2008, 10:17pm
Aye maybe... but tepid Radcliffe doesn't compete with TAFKA Lard and The Gid, for me, if I'm lucky enough to be near a DAB!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Velcro-Incident on Oct 11th, 2008, 11:32am

on 10/10/08 at 22:17:47, Cyril Benson wrote:
Aye maybe... but tepid Radcliffe doesn't compete with TAFKA Lard and The Gid.


Agreed. Legends, both. Tom Robinson also.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Oct 27th, 2008, 7:21pm
I've got to post about Stuart's Freak Zone broadcast yesterday. It was a special about the BBC Radiophonic Workshop and would be of interest to anyone interested in electronic music.

Wonderful is the only word I can use to describe this show. Full of great stories and marvelous sounds it was a real treat and I urge everyone to rush to the iPlayer.

Ian

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 5th, 2008, 10:55am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fq2sw/Listen_Against_Series_2_Episode_3/

go to about 13 mins in (hell listen to the whole show, tis funny!) for some reet tomfoolery - u r noone until you are satirised....

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Dec 5th, 2008, 8:57pm
Really Moshy, do keep up! ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 6th, 2008, 11:16am
i dont know why i didnt c spudder's mention of this before  ???

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Spudgun on Dec 7th, 2008, 1:48am
Ah it just proves we're all on the same wavelength.
A leftfield wave length but nevertheless the same one! ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Dec 16th, 2008, 4:16pm
http://www.snowgooseinteriors.com/images/pdf/snowgoose-cheshirelife-01.pdf

At home with the Radcliffes

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 16th, 2008, 4:21pm
next month

marc riley and family in YWWYW ::)

tempted to say mark's batting above his average with 'er indoors.... ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Dec 16th, 2008, 6:26pm
Crikey! My licence fee has bought him a nice gaff!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Dec 17th, 2008, 7:53pm
Ah well you have to pay top brass for quality. It's that or tinpot local radio!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jan 8th, 2009, 5:14pm
*hopes tumbleweed remains all that is seen on this thread given postings on R6MB today*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jan 9th, 2009, 10:23am
A piece each from Stuart and Mark about meeting Kate Bush in this months Word Magazine.

Thankfully neither take credit for any aspect of her career!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jan 9th, 2009, 11:11am
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeave it ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Jan 9th, 2009, 9:55pm
Is there a piece by Mark Ellen about when he met Mark Radcliffe and was invited onto his R2 show, thereby making his career and selling more of Word Magazine?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jan 10th, 2009, 8:14am
You could buy it and find out! ;), it's a great mag!

Ian

PS I miss him on the show!


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jan 16th, 2009, 6:46pm
More Mark Ellen here:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/department-research-and-development

Two old blokes talking about old records in a pretend Record Shop, what's not to like!!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson on Jan 16th, 2009, 6:57pm
MINT! :'(

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Jan 16th, 2009, 10:31pm
I like Mark Ellen - in fact I used to fancy him about 20 years ago - but I was married to the slug so would probably have fancied anything in trousers that didn't leave a trail of slime..

tmi  :-[

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jan 17th, 2009, 7:18am
Word Magazine is a bit like a print version of Mint. But with added Books, TV and Film.

A really good read for old gits like me!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jan 17th, 2009, 4:29pm
[quote author=Daisy link=board=mark_rad;num=1189449976;start=270#276 date=01/16/09 at 22:31:09]I like Mark Ellen - in fact I used to fancy him about 20 years ago - but I was married to the slug so would probably have fancied anything in trousers that didn't leave a trail of slime..

tmi  :-[/quote]

yh but look at the studmuffin u got after  ;)

*daisy get city entrances blocked*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Jan 18th, 2009, 12:38pm
hahahahaha  :P

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Mar 2nd, 2009, 12:54pm
Stuart has turned into a Darling of the Daily Mail, or maybe he already was. They're loving his "pointless book" on middle England.  I laughed when Clive Anderson called it pointless on Saturday's Loose Ends.

After Clive Anderson mentioned that he was in the Daily mail I had a look it seems like a load of waffle to me. He's been in there two days running now:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1157735/How-I-fell-love-Middle-England-DJ-Stuart-Maconies-enchanting-journey-middle-class-Britain.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1158409/It-really-IS-good-life-Stuart-Maconie-overwhelmed-warmth-humour-discovers-Englands-genteel-cul-sacs.html

This guy is right about his last book
http://www.student-direct.co.uk/2009/03/theres-no-difference/

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Mar 2nd, 2009, 1:05pm
the title puts me off, but then ive never been interested enough to investigate any of mark's tomes either. ACCA P6 Advanced Tax whips the arse of the lot of 'em for a thrilling page-turning read ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by R_J on Mar 2nd, 2009, 2:46pm
"Showbusiness...." is great.


Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Mar 2nd, 2009, 3:31pm
Two lovely pieces by Stuart. I've always loved that Thomas Poem and Stuart is right to say he would have become one of the greats.

The piece by the Student is of course wrong. My Mum lives in North Lincolnshire and the atmosphere is different when we vist, than here on the South Coast. Not better just different. Plus I doubt if he has actually read the book.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by pixiedancer on Mar 2nd, 2009, 4:37pm
The Daily Mail? *shudders* ... nuff said

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Mar 2nd, 2009, 5:37pm
Of course the Daily Mail is a grubby rag (as most of them are) but it will sell Stuart a lot more books, and if you are freelance that is the name of game I'm afraid. Stuart's politics don't come into it I think.

If Mark does the same will the same criticism still stand I wonder?.

Anyhow heres Stuart's Book Signing Diary (at Waterstones anyway)http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayDetailEvent.do?searchType=1&author=Stuart|Maconie

Ian

Stop Press! 124th in Amazon Sales Rank and 2nd in Travel writing, not bad for a pointless book!!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Mar 2nd, 2009, 9:58pm
he was near-ish me last nite, but not off to Bath on a "school" night. shame if he'd come to toytown i'd have made the effort, ive not done a good celeb stalk for ages & i think i'm quite good at it

cobbelrs i didnt wish *** happy birthday yesterday, god he'll disown me ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Mar 3rd, 2009, 6:54pm
Another extract here:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158696/Polish-waitresses-pakoras-corner-shop-yummy-mummies-black-jeeps-My-Camberwick-Green-changed.html

And no one can argue with the last sentence (and I'd like to see them try!) "But the England that made Vaughan Williams and Shakespeare is dearer to me than the England that made Bernard Manning and Liam Gallagher."

I couldn't agree more!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson Esq. on Mar 3rd, 2009, 8:23pm
Move over Owayseeeess, next on The Chain it's some Vaughan Williams!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Mar 29th, 2009, 8:53am
A review of Stuart's book here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/mar/29/stuart-maconie-middle-england-books

The balls in your court Radders!! ;D

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Apr 3rd, 2009, 9:40am
copied from R2MB:

According to the Radio Times, Mark Radcliffe is a guest on the Jonathan Ross show this Saturday.

is this correct??! i smell a book promo ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson Esq. on Apr 3rd, 2009, 8:05pm
Keep yer distance Mark, he's just cost the Beeb another £150k, and if he tries to make smutty remarks about your daughters, thump him

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Apr 3rd, 2009, 9:29pm
I read Friday there, not Saturday, and was all for experiencing the joys of the Radkin at 10.35 ce soir. Fail all round then.

*sniffles*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Apr 6th, 2009, 5:05pm
Mark was on in the middle hour - so go to 1 hour in on the i-player.....jovial chat, book seemlessly crowbarred in, naturally ;D

only on for about 20 mins tho, including songs!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Apr 7th, 2009, 8:16am
The Sony Noms are up:http://www.radioawards.org/winners/?year=2009

I draw your attenion to The Music Broadcaster of the Year. There's only one way to settle this....... FIGHT!!!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Apr 7th, 2009, 9:57am
Seriously, good to see Mark and Stuart well represented in the Awards.

It would be good to see the Freak Zone improve on it's Silver of 2007.

No Marc though, which is a shame.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Apr 7th, 2009, 1:03pm
And a new website:http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/the-radcliffe-and-maconie-show/

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Apr 7th, 2009, 3:54pm
Their new i-player pic suggests who's in charge!!!

and im sure mark seems to be growing hair at the front ::)

airbrushing is ace ;D

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Apr 7th, 2009, 8:58pm
I'm voting for Eddie Mair meself - well I would be if I had a vote  ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on May 3rd, 2009, 2:16pm
Another positive review: http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/may/03/radcliffe-maconie-clive-anderson

Yes, it's biased but a good review is a good review!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jul 29th, 2009, 10:43am
something mark said on mon night's show hinted he wouldnt be sitting in for steve wrong again? anyone else get that impression? think it was around 50 mins in, not sure - was when he was talking to a Chain guest and Emma Forbes got mentioned...

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by sgspecial on Jul 29th, 2009, 6:32pm
Yes, he described "the olden days" of subbing for Wrighty.

I don't think that the fat four-eyed buffoon wants anyone too threatening sitting in for him. Hence Dale Winton last week.

By the way, does anyone know the fishing/music website that was discussed a couple of weeks ago? Can't find it.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jul 29th, 2009, 8:21pm
try googling "fishing and music" lol, worth a shot! i cant think what it was called - maybe worth emithering in?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Jul 30th, 2009, 8:21am
Try here: http://caughtbytheriver.net/

Well worth a look.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Jul 30th, 2009, 11:38am
thats TB!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson Esq. on Jul 30th, 2009, 5:13pm
I heard some of Steve Wrong today in the car. It was a load of meaningless bluster, all "The Show" jingles but no CONTENT, a bit of news and weather read out, any fool could do that. A mere shadow of the early 1990's on Radio 1.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by sgspecial on Jul 30th, 2009, 5:55pm
Thank you. You are good, kind people.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Daisy on Aug 3rd, 2009, 6:06pm
Have I stumbled upon Radders' next career move? Tuning into 5live this afternoon to check the cricket score, who should be sitting in for Mayonnaise? Scrawn himself :o

Now, 5 is moving to Salford is it not? Mayo has said that he's not going oop north. So... there you have it! Or perhaps not  ;)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson Esq. on Aug 3rd, 2009, 7:44pm
I-I-I-I-I-I tink you'll foind R_J had alerted us to that one.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Aug 3rd, 2009, 8:11pm
*looks vague*

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Aug 3rd, 2009, 8:32pm
dull dull dull, i'll stick with liza n huey when back at work tomorrow!!!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 6th, 2009, 5:31pm
Of interest?

http://www.livefortheoutdoors.com/Videos/Search-Results/Walking/Country-Walking-meets-Mark-Radcliffe/

and?

http://www.livefortheoutdoors.com/Videos/Search-Results/Walking/EXCLUSIVE-Country-Walking-talks-to-Stuart-Maconie/


Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Sep 14th, 2009, 7:13pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/sep/14/mark-radcliffe-5-live

Sounds like a good move, as long has they leave Stuart the 8-10 slot.

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Sep 14th, 2009, 7:33pm
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Cyril Benson Esq. on Sep 15th, 2009, 8:40pm
I'm sure Mark enjoyed depping for Mayo last month, but I can't see him settling for a non-music show full-time.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Sep 16th, 2009, 9:35am
i ruddy hope ur Wright  ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by ip33 on Dec 4th, 2009, 2:41pm
As posted on the Word Magazine blog:

"My night with Thea Gilmore
Posted by Vince Black on 4 December 2009 - 1:47pm.
On Tuesday just gone I went with my regular gig buddy to see Thea's Christmas tour at Manchester's Band on the Wall. I've seen her a few times as my mate and his wife are long time Thea fans, but I've never been completely bowled over by her and I wasn't expecting too much from this performance

Here's the thing: it was terrific! Rod Clements (original bassist with Lindisfarne) did a nice opening set, and also played acoustic bass guitar for Thea's closing numbers. Thea had a 3 piece band, her husband and right hand man Nigel Stonier on acoustiv gtr, Fluff on fiddle & ac gtr and a young lad playing a hand drum kit

She started solo with a wistful little song by Yoko Ono which was lovely. Then some new and old material with the band. Highlight for me was when she sang without her gtr, backed only by Nigel and sang a drop dead gorgeous version of "Blue Christmas" by Elvis, performed in pin-drop silence. Best performance of the night, and not on her current album

She introduced the 11-piece Sense of Sound choir from Liverpool who appear on the album. They sang with her then performed 2 impressive acapella numbers on their own, including a fine version of Justin Timberlake's "Cry me a River"

My mate Steve told me the album includes an Elvis Costello song called St Stephen's Day Murders, recorded as a duet with Mark Radcliffe. I pointed out at Mr Radcliffe could get there in time to sing it as he finishes broadcasting at 10pm, about 5 minutes away by car. Sure enough at about 10.15 he appeared and performed this as the closing song with considerable aplomb. Even better they came back on and performed a spot-on version of Fairy Tale of New York

I don't think many punters on the current tour will have got to enjoy all this. I'm very glad I went"

So thats why she's on the last show before Christmas!

Ian

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Dec 5th, 2009, 5:51pm
thea pffffffffffft by monday week i'll be lined up as a guest ::) i'll outclass lindsay that's a given

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Apr 2nd, 2010, 4:36pm
just heard that the show is only gonna be mon-weds from next week, thursday slot is going to a concert show each week now?
one can only hope that this leads to more mahones gigs ::)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Mike Bond on Apr 2nd, 2010, 5:36pm
This was announced at the same time as Broosh Dickinson leaving... i.e. weeks ago... yes and Mark did say something heavily ironic at the time, along the lines of "your 4-nights-a-week radio pals"

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by littlemissmosher on Apr 2nd, 2010, 6:21pm
well as i said about bruce, i hadnt heard it, i dont listen to the news on the radio when listening again, i FF through it! and how they talked about it last night was like it had only just been announced as one of them said "are we going to say this now?"!

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by MikeBond on Oct 5th, 2012, 2:54pm
whoooooooooooooooooooo?

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Oct 8th, 2012, 12:50pm
The "Hello Mumford" - "Hello son" thing makes me laugh.

I may have been critical in the past but I do like these two in the afternoon. They're all we've got.

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Mr Gravity aka Solarman aka on Oct 9th, 2012, 11:45am
Glad to hear the Mumford & Son are well received in the Kingdom Of Fife :)

Title: Re: The Mark and Maconie general thread.
Post by Jocksy S on Oct 9th, 2012, 9:41pm
It was interesting to hear Marc Riley sidestep a lishener swipe at Mumford and Sons last night.

Marc launched Mumford and Sons, but he's no longer responsible for their records. At the beginning, their pre-album singles were okay, but I couldn't stand the album, it was very depressing. I think Marc lost interest then too.



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